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The Fediverse is inimicable to creatives.

Such a big brain take with widespread support and zero pushback.

How are creatives supposed to pay for their websites? Charge a subscription?

Nuance? Empathy? What are the point of those?

Vexing.

@Homebrewandhacking I empathise, but this "take" is from hard won lessons: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malverti

My adblocker probably won't block something like an image banner that's *not* from one of the large ad networks (there's really only Doubleclick and Meta)

I also consider ads from companies like Taboola and Outbrain a hazard to my mental health.

While we definitely need alternatives for funding art (even alternatives to Patreon and Ko-Fi), allowing unchecked JavaScript to run on my machine is not the way to go.

en.wikipedia.orgMalvertising - Wikipedia

@voltagex @Homebrewandhacking

This.

It's not the Fediverse being against creatives, it's the ad industry being a hellish cesspool (and deeply intwined with the fascism happening in the us and elsewhere, to boot).

So we need to find different ways to allow creatives to make a living.

@fedithom @voltagex

These seem like reasonable points actually. I'm responding to the original post which is very clear that say

Somethingpositive.net is a bad actor acting against you?

@Homebrewandhacking

Sorry, hadn't seen any reference to somethingpositive (and tbh still can't). Well, the site pulls in too much from 3rd parties. Paypal, Google, zergnet (why on earth?) and intergient.com (an apparently defunct site - congrats). So yeah, that makes my spidysenses tingle ;)

As for alternatives: I'm supportinga german podcast with 1€ a month via direct money transfer. Sure, different genre altogether, but they are happy with it. :)

@voltagex

PJ Coffey

@fedithom @voltagex

Sorry, could you do me a favour and scroll back up to the massively popular post I quoted?

It says that _all_ sites that ask you to disable your ad-blockers are intent on doing you harm. Is there any nuance there?

Go search that post. Does the thread challenge that unequivocal statement or ask for nuance.

Hence my statement which remains correct as the various blocked gobshites and dipshits cluttering up my thread attest.

@Homebrewandhacking @voltagex

Had to dig a bit, so to save folks the hassle, here's the link:
social.saarland/@SecurityWrite

No, there's no nuance in either OP or thread. And the OP is very much a blanket statement, no discussion there. Is it necessarily wrong? Maybe not technically.

How about we can have our cake and eat it, too? The current ad industry (which is essentially: Google) is so toxic, nobody should be exposed to it, creator or user. So we ALL need better ways than this.
Sound ok? :)

social.saarlandsocial.saarland

@fedithom @voltagex

*shrugs* I'm not asking people to get in a fight with this person who is, intentionally or not, against creatives existing online.

As the various sneers of "charge a subscription" demonstrate, creative work is regarded as lesser and likely not work.

None of those people would pay to look at an unknown artists work.

The dipshit saying people should self host and pay for it has no idea about hosting costs either.

Total lack of empathy and interest is widespread.

@Homebrewandhacking @voltagex

As for "It says that _all_ sites that ask you to disable your ad-blockers are intent on doing you harm.":

I can't judge a site's (rather: it's owner's) intent. But with intent or not: Disabling security measures opens one up to harm. On every site, regardless of intent. :)

@fedithom @voltagex

The meaning and implication are clear.