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Simon McGarr

Tom Baker, in the 1970s, asked about the idea of a woman playing the Doctor.

The answer (“a good idea”) to the question is then expanded to consider the culture of the BBC and then just men of 1970s Britain in general.

@Tupp_ed That unfortunately is the feeling I got with what happened with Jodie Whittaker.

@CWMarch @Tupp_ed Came here to say this.
So often our early heroes turn out to be paper tigers. Not Tom.

@sleepyfox @Tupp_ed

Charming, progressive, funny, caring - genuinely the kind of person we need more of in the world.

@Tupp_ed Tom Baker was my first Doctor and his a special place in my heart. I'm glad that he is also one of the good guys.

I'm looking at you Gaiman. Such a disappointment.

@Tupp_ed I would have loved it if he’d had enough influence to push Lalla Ward as his replacement and she got the quality of writing that she deserved.

@MartyFouts @Tupp_ed as opposed to replacing Mary Tamm because he was going out with Lalla? 😀

@Tupp_ed
“Very few men like women”

Tragically, that still seems to be the case today.

@Tupp_ed Für viele kann #DoctorWho nur ein weißer Mann sein und seine Begleitung nur eine zu beschützende Frau. Alles andere zerstört ihr fragiles Weltbild.

Zum Glück funktioniert Doctor Who nicht mehr zwingend nach deren Vorstellung.

@susannelilith I mean, it’s not even how the show worked for its many decades.

It’s just wilfully reactionary and misses all of the basic tenets of the show.

I pay that sort of whining no heed!

@susannelilith (Auto translate: Ich meine, so hat die Show über viele Jahrzehnte nicht einmal funktioniert.

Sie ist einfach absichtlich reaktionär und lässt alle Grundprinzipien der Show außer Acht.

Auf solches Gejammer schenke ich keine Beachtung!

@Tupp_ed Ich sagte nicht, dass die Show so funktioniert. Ich sagte, dass männliche weiße Zuschauer das so wollten. Aber die Show kümmerte sich nicht drum.

Als der Doctor eine Frau war, drehten viele durch. Dann kam ein farbiger Doctor und ich wette, da platzten einigen ein paar Adern.

Aber der Doctor ist bunt und queer und wunderbar. ❤️ Seine Zuschauer sind das nicht immer.

@susannelilith Quite right, and apologies that, in my eagerness to refute the wrong thoughts of those outside our exchange, it appeared I was attributing them to you.

@Tupp_ed "And if they did get a female Doctor, they would direct it in such a way that it would be a caricature." That's exactly what happened to Jodie Whittaker, isn't it?

@deBaer @Tupp_ed
I think Jodie Whitaker and the rest of the cast were great. The writing was awful though, and so bad I'm not sure it's possible to tell whether the director actually made it better or worse.

@Tupp_ed @deBaer I was hoping for a female Doctor in the style of Missy. What we got was someone weak and insecure who needed to be bolstered by a large group of companions. It felt like a dreadfully misogynistic characterisation of women.

@bread80 @Tupp_ed On the other hand, the Jo Martin doctor was quite cool, but only had very little screen time…

@bread80 @Tupp_ed @deBaer They repeated the too-many-companions mistake from Peter Davison's time as the 5th Doctor.
At the time he was the youngest actor to play the role. Perhaps the same (idiotic) 'needs support' attitude afflicted that time.

@Tupp_ed It's a very insightful text that could be written today as well

@Tupp_ed This is damn insightful. I feel like it explains some stuff with Dr. Who, but also both the best successes and worst failures of my relationships with women.

I actually like women, I think. Some women (who have liked me back) enjoy that. A few have found it unacceptable. :shrug:

@Tupp_ed

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

50 years later, it has still improved little if at all - although I do see a lot of hope in the younger generation.

@CliftonR @Tupp_ed

In the 1980s, when I was but a naive teen, I was at a con where he was the GoH and in the Q&A after his talk, I asked what he thought of a female doctor. I got booed by a number of audience members, but he squelched them and then said he thought it was a great idea.

I didn't take the booing too personally because I thought those guys were lame, and that things were going to get better. After all, the Doctor said so.

@Tupp_ed I think a lot of the reason he's always been portrayed as "mad" is because of stuff like this.

He just didn't give a shit what anyone thought of him, because Tom Baker was going to be Tom Baker, no matter what.

Speaking truth to power was part of who he was

@Tupp_ed Makes me sad that he died before they finally had one!

@Tiffany @Tupp_ed Oh! I don't know why it is that I remembered that he'd died! Well then I'm glad he got to see it!

@Tupp_ed Chris Bidmead was pushing for a female Dr Who in the 1980s, too.

@Tupp_ed misogyny was drilled into everybody after we 2, the women were forced back from the industrial world to the kitchen....