As time goes on, I think there are two surveys which provide the most valuable insight into the voters of Brexit Britain and Trump’s America.
The first, from 2021:
What wild animals do you think you can beat in a fight?
As a follow-up infographic, the US survey showed the answers provided by men and women.
While there was a gap (particularly on the question of fighting a goose) the trends remained disturbingly stable.
God bless and save you, 8% of Americans who think they can defeat an elephant in a fist fight.
The second survey I think about when I try to understand our neighbours to the West is also from YouGov, in 2019.
It asked 1,732 men and women a simple question:
“Do you think if you were playing your very best tennis, you could win a point off Serena Williams?"
12% of men (and 3% of women) said they thought they could.
Taken together, this does suggest that there are 4% of American men who believe they could win a fistfight with an adult wolf but who also acknowledge they will not win a tennis point against Serena Williams.
In a way, I admire those 4% of men. (And hope they continue to never encounter a wolf).
These were novelty topic surveys, intended to get the name YouGov said in print and on-air.
And yet I think they accidentally revealed something about the cultures which standard political surveys never get at.
Significant parts of the voting public in the US are completely detached from reality, and hold levels of confidence in their own place in the world completely at variance with fact.
This is significantly more pronounced among men.
@Tupp_ed dystopian futurism often imagines a time when people are so embedded in a virtual reality that they lose connection with their true reality.
Perhaps the future is already here.
@Tupp_ed I want to know about the 24% of Americans who think they'd lose against a rat.
@anaxamaxan I think the balance of survey takers have not encountered a fighting rat.
@Liamo @Tupp_ed YouTube comment threads are full of men who think they could easily take on women who are professional fighters in MMA promotions. It's cringeworthy. These are some of the toughest athletes on the planet, and you think your cottage cheese ass would last 5 seconds? You're coronary heart disease waiting to happen!
@Liamo I love this so much. No matter how many times I see it, and know what it says, I still audibly laugh at it. Gold!
@Tupp_ed To be fair on the last question, it doesn’t say she was playing her best. I used to play badminton with someone on the national squad and I could often score points against him. Of course, he was playing with his left hand and not moving from the centre of the court and I was playing on a team with two other people (we still normally lost). I could probably score a point against Serena Williams if, say, she were blindfolded. And I got to serve.
@david_chisnall @Tupp_ed Also, I don't know enough about tennis to know if sometimes even the very best players sometimes concede a point no matter who the opponent is just because of the nature of the game.
(Indeed, I read that Williams "has averaged just over one double fault per match" and doesn't that mean a shop window mannequin would score an average of one point in a match against her? But maybe that's only if you're trying for the best serve possible.)
@Tupp_ed well, wolves not having fists i bet the men would do ok with the fist part of the fight. the problem would be bringing fists to a tooth fight. and overlooking that "an adult wolf" doesn't come alone.
@Tupp_ed reminds me of bobby Riggs who boasted that the worst seeded male player could beat the best woman player. Billie Jean King took him up on it and blew him away in straight sets. Okay, he scored a few points but then he was a seeded player. That survey seems to be just ordinary guys.
@Tupp_ed To be fair, if you "accidentally" kill your opponent in tennis with a serve, that is considered a foul and you can lose a point that way, so, if you could annoy her enough...
@Tupp_ed so do 28% of people feel they’d get their asses kicked by an unarmed rat?
So many questions…
@Rubelicious @Tupp_ed Maybe but it's not explicit... some folks are scare of rats and some rats are hard as fuck... Who knows?
I think if I fought a rat, I would end up with rabies and possibly missing a limb. It would escape before I could cause it any damage whatsoever. Honestly, I fancy my chances against a housecat slightly better.
@celesteh @Rubelicious @Tupp_ed
Well to date I’ve ended up in A&E twice trying to take my cats to the vet!
They have the upper edge on me and they know it!
I mean, mouse isn't on that list, but I think virtually any animal could send me to A&E.
Especially in an unprovoked attack because that is definitely rabies.
@Tupp_ed well, i've given my cat meds before so i know i can take a cat most days
@Tupp_ed After a few pints some locals would probably also declare their chances of defeating an elephant.
@Tupp_ed I *have* beaten a goose, and a medium sized dog unarmed, so they're ticked off, I don't understand people losing to a king cobra, sure it will bite you, but they don't move away fast enough to not get smooshed, so it's a win if you can get antivenom fast enough, even if you lose a limb
Bloody optimists
@Tupp_ed That is remarkable. Knowing that half the country has significant ethical issues is one thing. Knowing that some of them think they can beat up a grizzly bear is something else.
@Tupp_ed a chimpanzee would literally decapitate you. Fucking lalaland.
@Iwillyeah The immediate go-to move in fights between male chimps is to instantly rip off their opponant’s testes.
These lads would still be standing with their dukes up.
@Tupp_ed well, every day's a school day.
@Tupp_ed America has quite a few drug problems which may provide an unfair advantage when fighting animals
What this tells me is that Brits and Americans do not have enough experience with geese because they are definitely on par with king cobra.
@RobotDiver @Tupp_ed not called cobra chicken for nothing
Also clearly never been up close with an eagle. Especially a golden eagle. I dunno if I've ever seen talons quire that intense.
@Tupp_ed I love the point spread on the goose in this infographic. My guess is that Brits have more actual experience with real geese.
@Tupp_ed You can't actually have a fight with a crocodile. It's not fighting, it's just eating you.
@Tupp_ed
70 % of the respondents apparently don't have a cat.