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(Takes a deep breath)

We obviously need to have a talk about the fact that most hackers are pretty socially liberal and personal liberty driven. That means we typically fall in line on ideals with libertarian and civil liberties organizations and pundits.

It seems that some people are just discovering that occasionally techbro and traditional libertarians push things at those orgs to an extreme that not only do we not support and have to call out, but even the good people working there object to.

You do not need to be a universal apologist for those organizations because they mostly do good stuff. It’s unbecoming. Endorsing very bad stuff and fascist enabling is in fact, super bad. It needs to be resoundingly condemned, immediately.

Frankly it’s gross, and I’m disappointed in a few of you. I donate to ACLU and EFF and I will absolutely call out their rare policies and statements which harm marginalized people.

*Walks off shaking my head at the Proton apologists*

Oh ok I’m coming back for this: deciding we are on “teams” that are infallible is basest human nature and exactly how we are falling into global nationalism and a ironclad two party system in the US. Call shit out when your friends and coworkers do it. Call your orgs out!

X-it

@hacks4pancakes That’s very generous. My guess would be that if US representatives sat in the European Parliament almost all of them would be on the right and far right. Maybe a couple in the centre and less than a dozen on the left. Maybe someone can correct those figures, but that’s what it sounds like.

@bernardlyons I don’t disagree. I am after all trying to flee.