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McGregor dangerous driving hearing delayed until 2024
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/1205/1420324-conor-mcgregor/
<< ridiculous!
#McGregor was uninsured, had no license, and driving dangerously in March 2022. He has been convicted of speeding twice and, in 2018, was disqualified from driving.
Yet, it looks like he will be processed only in mid-2024 and get at worse a meaningless €5k fine.
If #Ireland isn't going to bother enforcing traffic laws, it can't act surprised at its massive death rate from #driving . #mma
@kasilas he could get prison time for that charge. Hopefully the judge sets an example. Driving uninsured and without a license should be an automatic 6 month prison sentence, there’s no excuse for it.
@Padjo he certainly should, but unfortunately they have dropped to lesser charges, so 5k is the worst he will face.
@kasilas oh I read “gardaí further charged the father of four with careless driving” as they added an additional charge not that they changed the charge.
@Padjo I guess that is strictly true just misleading.
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate, this "massive death rate from driving" is one of the lowest in the world.
@Sliotar @Sliotar A worldwide comparison for Ireland: a low density, developed state with two big cities and few high-speed roads - Is the point that Ireland is better than other places? Well ... of course.
The stats below, from garda.ie, and especially the changes (inc. from 2019, which is the data reflected in that wiki page) seem pretty bloody massive for Ireland, in 2023 *to me*.
So you were deliberately using emotive language to mislead people?.
Ireland's road's are safe by international standards, despite this years unexpected uptick, and there's no data to indicate that that uptick is due to a lack of enforcement of traffic laws.
By the way, my great-grandfather died in a road traffic accident - in 1906, when he was run over by a horse drawn carriage.
@Sliotar the language is justified, imho. It is also not just this year by any measure, including the data I previously indicated. Is the most pedestrians killed in one year, in Ireland, since what (~2008?) not emotive?
I'll be genuinely interested if you can find any decent evidence saying driving enforcement isn't correlated with safer roads. Of course, that is not to say there aren't better solutions (e.g., layout redesign), but no one wants to pay for it.
@kasilas Do you have any evidence that the recent (significant) uptick in fatalities is related to a slackening in enforcement? After all, as the numbers I gave earlier show, we have some of the lowest rates of road fatalities in the world - yet you claim that that's not due to enforcement, but environment.
Some of the most newsworthy road fatalities in recent times have involved young people in rural areas, and late at night. It's not clear to me that they were due to lack of enforcement.
@Sliotar I think we can agree that there has been a
recent growth (I would say explosion, but I'm trying to stay neutral) in accidents which is really quite adverse.
And, again, the correlation between enforcement and abuse/acidents is not normally contested, but I am open to evidence to the contrary.