@micahflee lemme guess: @eff just took a multi-network eSIM and multi-network WWAN modules to scan for "#deauth" / "#EvilTwin" attacks?

Cuz I remember @heiseonline or @golem actually suggest this as a method to detect #IMSIcatchers without requiring an expensive #SDR:

• By precisely looking when which WWAN stick (for #3G back then) got disconnected and warning if they all got disconnected & reconnected at the same time...

AFAIK #GSMK uses that same technique for their #Baseband-#Firewall to automatically detect #Interception attempts and deploy countermeasures!

@icedquinn @tasket even then I'm shure they didn't even come close to the security requirements of @GrapheneOS ...

Since #GSMK's work is "source available" I'd love to see how much they are similar, but I know that none of the #GrapheneOS devs will even look at that code for legitimate reasons...

@krutonium @tasket

OFC, I don't expect @GrapheneOS to churn out a device in record time - that's not how it works...

I merely acknowledge this as a necessary long-term shift that'll take 5-10+ years and lots of funding.

Tho with companies like #GSMK making decent revenue, it's expectable that #Graphene could really get #funding or at least #vendors to partner with them.

• Personally I wished #Fairphone and/or #shift would see this as a chance to like actually work on making their future devices not just #repairable but #secure from the factory!

@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika Then I guess you misunderstood me.

Cuz what would happen if all the devices you support are being EoL'd, get out of production and none fit your security requirements?

• As shit as it sounds, that seems more realistic mid- to longterm than most may want to admit!

I think that would be bad because I see #GrapheneOS as a net positive for everyone...

• But I also see that there is a need to have a solid backup in place for that scenario, even if that means you gonna go the route of #GSMK and build boutique-priced, low volume secure devices...

https://www.cryptophone.de/products/CP700

@hkrn it's called #SS7 aka. "#SilentSMS"...

#Apple could do the objectively right thing and implemebt a #BasebandFirewall like #GSMK did over a decade ago...

@rival_elf It's really sad that besides a gew Phones that can run #SnoopSnitch there are only.extremely expensive aka. "call for pricing" phones from maufacturers like #GSMK that have a #BasebandFirewall to detect and mitigate #OTA attacks with #IMSIcatcher|s and other #Govware...

@animemer @thecatcollective
- #ZFS, #Ceph, #IPFS and espechally #LTFS are FLOSS & Industry Standards.
- #CinemaDNG & #OpenEXR as well as #TIFF are #OpenFormats.
- #FLAC is the go-to for #Audiophiles
- #SIP & #ZRTP are the only #MultiVendor #VoIP protocols and run every #IP phone that isn't a #SCIP or #GSMK #CryptoPhone...
- #OpenVPN, #WireGuard, #IPsec & #L2TP are the only major #VON rptocols, also #OpenSource
- #LibreOffice ofc.