Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AJ Sadauskas</a> <blockquote>I mean, the Fediverse already has Lemmy, KBin, and MBin.<br><br>So there's already an ecosystem of pre-built communities out there.</blockquote><br>/kbin is dead. Has been since last year. The last instances that haven't moved to Mbin are withering away.<br><br>However, in the "Lemmy clone" category, there's also PieFed, and Sublinks is still in development.<br><br>Also, the Facebook alternative <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> ("Facebook alternative" not as in "Facebook clone", but as in "better than Facebook") has had <a href="https://dir.friendica.social/group" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">groups</a> since its launch in, 2010, five and a half years before Mastodon. <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> has had groups since 2012 when it still was a Friendica fork named Red. <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/(streams)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> (2021) and <a href="https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> (2024) have groups, too. All four are part of the same software family, created by the same developer. And interacting with their groups from Mastodon is somewhat smoother than interacting with a Lemmy community.<br><br>On Friendica, a group is simply another user account, but with different settings: In "Mastodon speak", it automatically boosts any DM sent to it to all its followers. In reality, it's a little more complicated because, unlike Mastodon, Friendica has a concept of threaded conversations. (No, seriously, Mastodon doesn't have it. If you think Mastodon has it, use Friendica for a year or two as your only daily driver, and then think again.)<br><br>Likewise, on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, it's another <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Channels_(Hubzilla_%26_(streams))" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">channel</a> with similar settings.<br><br>CC: @<a href="https://sauropods.win/@futurebird" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">myrmepropagandist</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@jasperb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jasper Bienvenido</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.cc/@sebastian" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sebastian büttrich</a> @<a href="https://pnw.zone/@Asbestos" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Asbestos</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseGroups" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseGroups</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Groups" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Groups</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=PieFed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PieFed</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sublinks" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sublinks</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>
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Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@jorgecandeias" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jorge Candeias</a> Bad idea. (<a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> user here.)<br><br>Hashtags are not only for discoverability (and critically so on Mastodon). They're also the preferred way of triggering the automatic generation of individual reader-side content warnings.<br><br>Content warnings that are automatically generated for each user individually based on keyword lists have a long tradition in the Fediverse. Friendica has had them long before Mastodon even existed, much less before Mastodon hijacked the summary field for content warnings. Hubzilla has had them since its own inception which was before Mastodon, too. (streams) has them, Forte has them.<br><br>On all four, automated reader-side content warnings are an integral part of their culture. And users of all four (those who are not recent Mastodon converts at least, i.e. those who entered the Fediverse by joining Friendica in the early 2010s) insist in automated reader-side content warnings being <em>vastly</em> better than Mastodon's poster-side content warnings that are forced upon everyone all the same.<br><br>Oh, and by the way, Mastodon has this feature, too. It has only introduced it in October, 2022, and since the re-definition of Mastodon's culture in mid-2022 pre-dates it, it is not part of Mastodon's culture. But Mastodon has this feature.<br><br>However, in order for these content warnings to be generated, there needs to be a trigger. The safest way is by hashtags: If you post content that not everyone may want to see, add corresponding hashtags, enough to cover as many people as possible. If you don't want to see certain content right away, add the corresponding hashtags as keywords to NSFW (Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte) or a CW-generating filter (Mastodon).<br><br>In fact, hashtags can also be used to completely filter out content that you don't want to see at all. And they can be used to trigger such filters. This should work everywhere in the Fediverse.<br><br>I myself post stuff that some people don't want to see all the time. Hence, I need a whole lot of hashtags.<br><br>Let me explain the "hashtag wall" at the bottom of this comment to you.<br><br><ul><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a>, #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a><br>This comment is over 500 characters long. Many Mastodon users don't want to see any content that exceeds 500 characters. They can filter either or both of these hashtags and at least get rid of my content with over 500 characters.<br>Why two hashtags? Because I can't know beforehand which one of them people will filter. And because I can't know beforehand which of one of them people will search for or follow.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a>, #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a><br>The same as above, but making clear that it's supposed to stand in for a content warning ("CW: long (over 8,300 characters)"). Also, filtering these instead of the above has less of a chance of false positives than the above.<br>Why two hashtags? Because I can't know beforehand which one of them people will filter. And because I can't know beforehand which of one of them people will search for or follow.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a>, #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a><br>This comment contains Fediverse meta content. Some people don't want to read anything about the Fediverse, not even as by-catch or boosted to them by someone whom they follow or even only on their federated timeline. They can filter either or both of these.<br>Why two hashtags? Because I can't know beforehand which one of them people will filter. And because I can't know beforehand which of one of them people will search for or follow.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a>, #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a><br>The same as above, but making clear that it's supposed to stand in for a content warning ("CW: Fediverse meta" or, in this case, "CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta").<br>Why two hashtags? Because I can't know beforehand which one of them people will filter. And because I can't know beforehand which of one of them people will search for or follow.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a><br>This comment is about the Fediverse. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about the Fediverse find my comment.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a><br>This comment touches Mastodon as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about Mastodon find my comment.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a><br>This comment touches Friendica as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic, especially if you don't know what the hell <a href="https://friendi.ca" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> is, but you're curious. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about Friendica find my comment.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a><br>This comment touches Hubzilla as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic, especially if you don't know what the hell <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> is, but you're curious. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about Hubzilla find my comment.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a>, #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a><br>This comment touches (streams) as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic, especially if you don't know what the hell <a href="https://codeberg.org/streams/streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the streams repository</a> is, but you're curious. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about (streams) find my comment.<br>Why two hashtags if they're the same on Mastodon? Because they are <em>not</em> the same on Friendica, Hubzilla (again, that's where I am), (streams) itself and Forte. If I have to choose between catering to the technologies and cultures of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and catering to Mastodon's, I will always choose the former.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a><br>This comment touches Forte as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic, especially if you don't know what the hell <a href="https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> is, but you're curious. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about Forte find my comment.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonCulture" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MastodonCulture</a><br>This comment touches Mastodon culture as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic, including critical views upon how Mastodon users try to force Mastodon's 2022 culture upon the users of Fediverse server applications that are very different from Mastodon, and that have had their own culture for much longer. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about Mastodon culture find my comment.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hashtag</a>, #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hashtags" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hashtags</a><br>This comment touches hashtags as a topic. If you don't like it, you can filter it out. Otherwise, click it or tap it to find more content on the topic. Also, the hashtag helps people looking for content about hashtags and their implications find my comment.<br>Why two hashtags? Because I can't know beforehand which one of them people will filter. And because I can't know beforehand which of one of them people will search for or follow.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=HashtagMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HashtagMeta</a><br>This comment contains hashtag meta content. Some people don't want to read anything about it, not even as by-catch or boosted to them by someone whom they follow or even only on their federated timeline. They can filter either it.</li><li>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWHashtagMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWHashtagMeta</a><br>The same as above, but making clear that it's supposed to stand in for a content warning ("CW: hashtag meta").</li></ul><br>By the way: Hashtags for triggering filters are even more important on Hubzilla in comments when Mastodon users may see them. That's because Hubzilla cannot add Mastodon-style content warnings to comments (= everything that replies to something else; here on Hubzilla, it's very different from a post that isn't a reply). What's a content warning on Mastodon is still (and justifiedly so) a summary on Hubzilla. But from a traditional blogging point of view (Hubzilla can very much be used for full-fledged long-form blogging with all bells and whistles), a summary for a comment doesn't make sense. Thus, the comment editors have no summary field on Hubzilla. Thus, I can't add Mastodon-style CWs to comments here on Hubzilla.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonCulture" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MastodonCulture</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hashtag</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hashtags" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hashtags</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=HashtagMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HashtagMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWHashtagMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWHashtagMeta</a>
Doris :fediverse:🦉🇪🇺<p>🎉 Die heutige Fediverse-Sprechstunde ist zu Ende.</p><p>Ein herzliches Dankeschön geht an <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gunchleoc</span></a></span> für ihre Ausführungen zu <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Peertube</span></a> inklusive Liveupdate von PeerTube! Wir hatten eine spannende Runde mit vielseitigen Themen, die sowohl für <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/neuhier" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>neuhier</span></a> als auch für fortgeschrittene Nutzer interessant waren.<br>Mein Dank gilt auch allen Teilnehmenden der Sprechstunde, die sich aktiv eingebracht und so erneut zu einer gelungenen Veranstaltung beigetragen haben.</p><p>🗓️ Der nächste Termin steht bereits fest: Donnerstag 24.04.2025 um 19:30 Uhr<br>Thema: <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> mit <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@Ranslite" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Ranslite</span></a></span> <br>Weitere Details folgen.</p><p>Lang lebe Fediverse! 🚀🌐 <br><a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Hubzilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hubzilla</span></a> <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Friendica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Friendica</span></a> <a href="https://top-netz.de/tags/Peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Peertube</span></a></p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iFixit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iFixit</a> <blockquote>and it doesn't look like you can attach documents to posts</blockquote><br>You can't on Mastodon. I could, both here on <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> and on <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/(streams)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> where I post my images.<br><br>But I wouldn't have to. Vanilla Mastodon has a character limit of 500. Hubzilla has a character "limit" that's so staggeringly high that nobody knows how high it is because it doesn't matter. (streams), from the same creator and the same software family as Hubzilla, has a character "limit" of over 24,000,000 which is not an arbitrary design decision but simply the size of the database field.<br><br>By the way: Both are in the Fediverse, and both are federated with Mastodon, so Mastodon's "all media must have accurate and sufficiently detailed descriptions" rule applies there as well unless you don't care if thousands upon thousands of Mastodon users block you for not supplying image and media descriptions.<br><br>In theory, I could publish a video of ten minutes, and in the same post, I could add a full, timestamped description that takes several hours to read. Verbatim transcript of all spoken words. Detailed description of the visuals where "detailed" means "as detailed as Mastodon loves its alt-texts" as in "800 characters of alt-text or more for a close-up of a single flower in front of a blurry background" detailed. Detailed description of all camera movements and cuts. Description of non-spoken-word noises. All timestamped, probably with over a hundred timestamps for the whole description of ten minutes of video.<br><br>Now I'm wondering if <em>that</em> could be helpful or actually required, or if it's overkill and actually a hindrance.<br><br>CC: @<a href="https://connectified.com/@masukomi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">masukomi</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GunChleoc</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>
Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝<strong><span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/hhrestr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla-Häppchen: Mit Restriktionen anderer Dienste umgehen</a></strong><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/photos/pepecyb/image/58ca2d13-6096-45e2-93ab-cc6a0c7eb3e5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br><blockquote>Hubzilla weist viele Features auf, die bei anderen Fediverse-Diensten fehlen oder nur eingeschränkt existieren...</blockquote><br><br><a href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/hhrestr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">..:: WEITERLESEN ::..</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediverseTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla-h%C3%A4ppchen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla-häppchen</a>
Kristian<span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.dhelonious.de/users/daniel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>daniel</span></a></span> Vollkommen d'accord, ja. Den letzteren Teil müssen wir dort vermutlich noch üben. Und den Umstand, dass manche dieser Themen in nicht-AP-Protokollen wie Zot bzw auf Plattformen wie <a href="https://loma.ml/search?tag=Hubzilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hubzilla</span></a> schon besser umgesetzt sind, sollte man dann vielleicht auch nochmal diskutieren. Mein Respekt vor AP und dem Spec-Gremium hat in den letzten Jahren dort sehr gelitten, und insgesamt fühlt sich das Ergebnis von Woche zu Woche irgendwie ... unbrauchbarer an, zumindest für die Ambition, die dahintersteht. Viele Punkte waren lästig, aber nicht schlimm; Privacy ist einer, der wirklich heftig wehtut. Dass man dergleichen selbst in den 2010ern derart lax und unverbindlich definiert, werd ich wohl nie verstehen. Was momentan übrig zu bleiben scheint, ist eine Neuerfindung von asynchroner nachrichtenbasierter Kommunikation auf Basis von HTTP mit JSON-Content und ein lose definiertes, natürlich erweiterbares Vokabular für die Nachrichten. Da hätte man so viel lernen können aus den E-Mail-Protokollen, NNTP, XMPP-PubSub oder auch frühen/anderen Fediverse-Protokollen wie OStatus oder Zot und deren Stärken und Schwächen.<br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://missocial.de/profile/jools" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jools</span></a></span>
Dirk Blank :nonazis: 🇩🇪<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dju.social/@wossi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>wossi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://plasmatrap.com/@caos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>caos</span></a></span> </p><p>Ja, der Beitrag macht Lust darauf, auch mal andere Dienste <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/Hubzilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hubzilla</span></a> <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/lemmy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lemmy</span></a> <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/pixelfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pixelfed</span></a> <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>peertube</span></a> usw. Im <a href="https://nrw.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> auszuprobieren.</p><p>Danke <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://plasmatrap.com/@caos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>caos</span></a></span> für diesen Beitrag!</p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.online/@joho" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joaquim Homrighausen</a> @<a href="https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Beaumont</a> To be fair, full data portability via ActivityPub has only been available in a stable release of <em>anything</em> for two weeks.<br><br>That was when @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a>'s <a href="https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>, created in mid-August of 2024 as a fork of his own <a href="https://codeberg.org/streams/streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">streams repository</a> and the latest member of a family of software that started in 2010 with Friendica, had its very first official stable release.<br><br>And, in fact, Forte just uses ActivityPub to do something that (streams) and its predecessors all the way to the Red Matrix from 2012 (known as Hubzilla since 2015) have been doing using the Nomad protocol (formerly known as Zot). It's called <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Nomadic_identity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">nomadic identity</a>. This is technology that's over a dozen years old on software that was built around this technology from the get-go, only that it was recently ported to ActivityPub.<br><br>Now, nomadic identity via ActivityPub was @<a href="https://mitra.social/users/silverpill" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">silverpill</a>'s idea. He wanted to make his <a href="https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mitra</a> nomadic. He started working in 2023. The first conversion of existing non-nomadic server software to nomadic still isn't fully done, much less officially rolled out as a stable release.<br><br>If Mastodon actually <em>wanted</em> to implement nomadic identity, they would first have to wait until Mitra has a first stable nomadic release. Then they would have to wait until nomadic identity on Mitra (and between Mitra and Forte) has become stable and reliable under daily non-lab conditions. (Support for nomadic identity via ActivityPub on (streams) worked nicely under lab conditions. When it was rolled out to the release branch, and existing instances upgraded to it, it blew up in everyone's faces, and it took months for things to stabilise again.)<br><br>Then they would have to look at how silverpill has done it and how Mike has done it. Then they would have to swallow their pride and decide to adopt technology that they can't present as their own original invention because it clearly isn't. And they would have to swallow their pride <em>again</em> and decide <em>against</em> making it incompatible with Mitra, Forte and (streams) just to make these three look broken and inferior to Mastodon.<br><br>And only then they could actually start coding.<br><br>Now look at how long silverpill has been working on rebuilding Mitra into something nomadic. This takes a whole lot of modifications because the concept of identity itself has to be thrown overboard and redefined because your account will no longer be your identity and vice versa. Don't expect them to be done in a few months.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mitra" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mitra</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=RedMatrix" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RedMatrix</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=DataPortability" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DataPortability</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NomadicIdentity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NomadicIdentity</a>
Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝<strong><span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/hhauth" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla Häppchen: Authentifizierung im Grid</a></strong><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/photos/pepecyb/image/eee15d1e-6a34-4064-88b6-ecdb281e4961" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br><blockquote>Mit Hubzilla ist es möglich, auch auf geschützte Inhalte zuzugreifen... alles durch das ausgeklügelte Authentifizierungs-System...</blockquote><br><br><a href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/hhauth" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">..:: WEITERLESEN ::..</a><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/?cat=Hubzilla-H%C3%A4ppchen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br>Noch keinen Hubzilla-Account? Dann aber los...<br><br><a class="" href="https://hubzilla.hu/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediverseTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla-h%C3%A4ppchen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla-häppchen</a>
Tim Schlotfeldt ⚓🏳️🌈New Blogpost: <a href="https://www.tschlotfeldt.de/wiki/2025-03-25_Schleswig-Holstein_auf_der_Fedikarte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Schleswig-Holstein auf der Fedikarte</a>:<br><br><a href="https://www.tschlotfeldt.de/wiki/2025-03-25_Schleswig-Holstein_auf_der_Fedikarte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br><blockquote>Das ist die #<a class="" href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/search?tag=Fedikarte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fedikarte</a>, auf der sich Leute mit einem Fediverse-Account einfach selbst eintragen können. Die Idee finde ich klasse, da es doch noch mal ein etwas anderes Gruppengefühl erzeugt, wenn man sieht, wer alles in der eigenen Umgebung im Fediverse aktiv ist. Ich freue mich, das hier in Schleswig-Holstein schon so viele Accounts darauf sichtbar sind (aber es können gerne noch ein paar mehr werden 😉). Für #<a class="" href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> -Nutzer:innen gilt dabei etwas zu beachten […]</blockquote><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/search?tag=SchleswigHolstein" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SchleswigHolstein</a>
Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝<strong><span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/hherwmentag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla-Häppchen: Erwähnungen / Mentions / Tagging</a></strong><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/photos/pepecyb/image/80af414a-238e-46a7-8df4-c1888c816ea4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br>Um einen anderen Nutzer (Kanal) in einem Posting zu erwähnen, sodass dieser über den Beitrag benachrichtigt wird, muss der betreffende Kanal getaggt werden...<br><br><a href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/hherwmentag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">..:: WEITERLESEN ::..</a><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/?cat=Hubzilla-H%C3%A4ppchen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediverseTipps" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseTipps</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla-h%C3%A4ppchen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla-häppchen</a>
Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝<strong><span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/jhhelp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla: Hilfe erhalten / Mehr Informationen / Anleitungen</a></strong><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/photos/pepecyb/image/4af70c91-76f5-4a57-bbfc-92f7681f636e" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br><blockquote>Hilfe finden Sie in der Hubzilla-Hilfe. Weitere Erläuterungen, Kurz-Tutorials, Tipps und Hinweise finden Sie in der Hubzilla KnowledgeDB...</blockquote><br><br><a href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/jhhelp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">..:: WEITERLESEN ::..</a><br><br><a class="" href="https://hubzilla.hu/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediverseTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla</a>
Dan d'Auge<br>Mise à jour de Hubzilla pour fedi de TCB<br><br>La version de Hubzilla est passée de 10.0.8 à 10.2.1. Changelogs : <br>- <span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/releases/10.2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/releases/10.2</a><br>- <span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/releases/10.2.1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/releases/10.2.1</a><br><br>Le hub : <span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://fedi.thechangebook.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fedi.thechangebook.org/</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://fedi.thechangebook.org/search?tag=TCB" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TCB</a> #<a class="" href="https://fedi.thechangebook.org/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://fedi.thechangebook.org/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://fedi.thechangebook.org/search?tag=LogicielLibre" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LogicielLibre</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://birdbutt.com/@vulgalour" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">vulgalour</a> First of all, "image description" and "alt-text" don't mean the same thing.<br><br>Alt-text is what's added directly to the image. It's what screen readers used by blind or visually-impaired people read out loud as they can't "read out loud" an image. It's what people see instead of the image if the image doesn't show for them (text-based client, too slow Internet connection, whatever).<br><br>Alt-text should never convey more information than the image which it is a replacement for.<br><br>An image description that goes into the post itself is not alt-text.<br><br>I don't see any rule or part of the "Fediquette" or "Mastodon culture" that speaks against adding that additional information to a reply.<br><br>Whether it works or not depends on whether your customers accept it or not. I guess that 99% of your aspiring customers in the Fediverse will be on Mastodon, only see your start post and not be bothered to check the replies. So my suggestion is to leave room in the original post for tellling your customers that prices can be found in a reply to that post.<br><br>But seeing as this will happen to you a lot, it may be worth looking for someplace that offers you more than 500 characters:<br><ul><li>a Mastodon instance with a raised character limit</li><li>Pleroma (5,000 characters by default, configurable by the admin)</li><li>Akkoma (5,000 characters by default, configurable by the admin)</li><li>Misskey (3,000 characters, hard-coded; just steer clear of misskey.io)</li><li>the various forks of Misskey and forks of their forks like Iceshrimp or Sharkey (thousands of characters by default, configurable by the admin)</li></ul><br>If you need a five-digit character count, the best you can do requires basically re-learning the Fediverse, mastering a significantly steeper learning curve and very likely abandoning dedicated apps. Here we're talking about Mike Macgirvin's creations from Friendica (200,000 characters) to Hubzilla (probably even higher) to (streams) and Forte (over 24,000,000 characters).<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkeys" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forkeys</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CharacterLimit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CharacterLimit</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CharacterLimits" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CharacterLimits</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@jasperb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jasper Bienvenido</a> The only talk about a Discord "alternative" in the Fediverse comes from people who want 1:1 clones of all kinds of commercial stuff with an absolutely identical UX, but free and open-source and decentralised with ActivityPub.<br><br>Otherwise, for just simply chatting, including multi-user chatrooms, there are Matrix (iOS/Android: Element) and XMPP (iOS: Monal IM, Android: Conversations). They are not part of the Fediverse, but they are free, open-source and decentralised. And they are alternatives to iMessage, Telegram and WhatsApp as well.<br><br>For discussion groups/forums, and very much in the Fediverse as in connected Mastodon, there are<br><ul><li>Lemmy (Reddit clone)</li><li>Mbin (like Reddit, but better)</li><li>PieFed (like Reddit, but better)</li><li>Friendica (like Facebook, but better and more powerful)</li><li>Hubzilla (like Facebook, but much better and much, much more powerful)</li><li>(streams) (like Facebook, but much better and more powerful)</li><li>Forte (like Facebook, but much better and more powerful)</li></ul><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Discord" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Discord</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=DiscordAlternative" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DiscordAlternative</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=XMPP" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">XMPP</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Jabber" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jabber</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Matrix" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matrix</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Groups" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Groups</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Lemmy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lemmy</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mbin" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mbin</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=PieFed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PieFed</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>
bob<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@sanji" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sanji</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@Bristow_69" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Bristow_69</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fla</span></a></span> Vaut mieux utiliser <a href="https://diaspodon.fr/tags/Hubzilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hubzilla</span></a> : ça fait partie du <a href="https://diaspodon.fr/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a>... <br>Par contre, attention, recommander ProtonMail c'est une erreur.</p>
Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://m.ocsf.in/@think" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kellam⚙️Бур</a> This may come as a surprise, but: <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Nomadic_identity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nomadic identity</a> is not an abstract concept or a science-fiction idea for the Fediverse.<br><br>It is reality. It exists. Right now. In stable, daily-driver software that's federated with Mastodon. And it has been for over a decade.<br><br>I'm literally replying to you here from a nomadic channel that simultaneously exists on two servers.<br><br>Nomadic identity was invented by @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin 🖥️</a> (formerly American software developer of about half a century who has been living in rural Australia for decades now) in 2011 and first implemented in 2012. Almost four years before Mastodon was first launched.<br><br>In 2010, he had invented the Facebook alternative <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a>, originally named Mistpark and based on his own DFRN protocol.<br><br>Over the months, he witnessed lots of privately operated public Friendica nodes shut down with or without an announcement and the users on these nodes lose everything. He added the possibility to export and import Friendica accounts. But that would only help if a permanent shutdown was announced. It did not protect you against shutdowns out of the blue.<br><br>There was only one solution to this problem. And that was for someone's identity to not be bound to one server, but to exist on multiple servers simultaneously. The whole thing with everything that's attached to it. Name, settings, connections, posts, files in the file storage etc. etc., everything.<br><br>So in 2011, Mike designed a whole new protocol named Zot around this brand-new idea of what he called "nomadic identity" back then already.<br><br>In 2012, Mike forked Friendica into something called Red, later the Red Matrix, and rebuilt the whole thing from the ground up against Zot. Red was the first nomadic social networking software in the world, almost four years before Mastodon.<br><br>In 2015, ten months before Mastodon was first released, the Red Matrix became <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>, the Fediverse's ultimate Swiss army knife.<br><br>I am on Hubzilla myself. <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This channel of mine</a> is constantly being mirrored between its main instance on <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu</a> and its clone on <a href="https://hub.hubzilla.de" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hub.hubzilla.de</a>. Anything that happens on the main instance is backed up on the clone. I can also log into the clone and use that, and whatever happens there is backed up on the main instance.<br><br><a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu</a> could go down, temporarily, permanently, doesn't matter; I still have my channel, namely the clone. And I can declare the clone my new main instance.<br><br>Well, Mike didn't stop at Hubzilla and its original version of the Zot protocol. He wanted to refine it and advance it, but in ways that wouldn't be possible on daily-driver software.<br><br>Zot went through several upgrades: Zot6 in 2018 (backported to Hubzilla in 2020, along with OpenWebAuth magic single sign-on). Zot8 in 2020. Zot11 in 2021 which had become incompatible with Zot6 and therefore was renamed to Nomad. Today's Nomad would be Zot12.<br><br>Also, in order to advance and test Zot, Mike created a whole bunch of forks and forks of forks. Osada and Zap for Zot6 in 2018, followed by another short-lived Osada in 2019. A third Osada, Mistpark 2020 (a.k.a. Misty) and Redmatrix 2020 in 2020 for Zot8. Roadhouse for <del>Zot11</del> Nomad in 2021. All Osadas, Zap, Misty, Redmatrix 2020 and Roadhouse were discontinued on New Year's Eve of 2022.<br><br>The most recent software based on Nomad is from October, 2021. It can be found in <a href="https://codeberg.org/streams/streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the streams repository</a>. It is officially and intentionally nameless and brandless, it has next to nodeinfo code that could submit statistics, and it is intentionally released into the public domain. The community named it <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/(streams)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> after the code repository.<br><br>I also have two (streams) channels, one of which is cloned so far.<br><br>The newest thing, and that's what the Friendica and Hubzilla veteran @<a class="" href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Schlotfeldt ⚓?️?</a> referred to, is nomadic identity using nothing but ActivityPub, no longer relying on a special protocol.<br><br>This was not Mike Macgirvin's idea. This came from @<a href="https://mitra.social/users/silverpill" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">silverpill</a>, the creator and developer of the microblogging server application <a href="https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mitra</a>. He wanted to make Mitra nomadic, make it resilient against server shutdown. But he didn't want to port it to Nomad. He wanted to achieve it with nothing but ActivityPub.<br><br>So he hit up Mike. The two came to the conclusion: This is actually possible. And they began to work on it. Amongst the results were several FEPs coined by silverpill.<br><br>This time, Mike did not create another fork to develop nomadic identity via ActivityPub. He did it all on the <em>nomadic</em> branch of the streams repository while silverpill did his part on a special development branch of Mitra.<br><br>In mid-2024, after enough sparring between (streams) instances, between Mitra instances and between (streams) and Mitra, Mike was confident enough that his implementation of support of nomadic identity via ActivityPub was stable enough. He merged the <em>nomadic</em> branch into the <em>dev</em> branch which ended up being merged into the stable <em>release</em> branch in summer.<br><br>Now, at this point, (streams) didn't use ActivityPub for nomadic identity. It still used the Nomad protocol for everything first and foremost, including cloning. But it understood nomadic identity via ActivityPub as implemented on experimental Mitra.<br><br>However, while it worked under lab conditions, it blew up under real-life conditions. At this point, (streams) had to handle so many different identities that it confused them, and it couldn't federate with <em>anything</em> yet.<br><br>In mid-August, while trying to fix the problem, Mike eventually forked the streams repository into <a href="https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a>. It got a name again, it got a brand identity again, it got its nodeinfo back, it was put under the MIT license again.<br><br>But most importantly: Any and all support for Nomad was ripped out, also to get rid of a whole number of IDs, namely those for Nomad-actually-Zot12 and for Hubzilla's Nomad-actually-Zot6. Forte only uses ActivityPub for everything. And so, Forte also had to fully rely on ActivityPub for nomadic identity, cloning and syncing.<br><br>For almost seven months, Forte was considered experimental and unstable. For most of the time, the only existing servers were Mike's.<br><br>But on March 12th, 2025, <a href="https://fediversity.site/item/b69ce5a0-0c22-4933-8393-dce7100f4584" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin released Forte 25.3.12</a>, the first official stable release of Forte. This is what Tim wrote about. Because this actually made it into Fediverse-wide news.<br><br>Not because it's nomadic. Nomadic identity has been daily-driven for over a decade now.<br><br>But because it uses ActivityPub for nomadic identity. Which means that you can theoretically make any kinds of Fediverse software nomadic now, all without porting it to the Nomad protocol first.<br><br>For the future, Mike and silverpill envision a Fediverse in which one can clone between different server applications. A Fediverse in which one can have one and the same identity cloned across multiple servers of Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Mitra, Forte, Mobilizon, Lemmy, BookWyrm etc., all with the same name, all with the same content and settings (as far as the software allows; you will certainly not be able to clone your PeerTube videos to Mastodon and Lemmy).<br><br>Even if you don't intend to clone, it will make moving instances and even moving from one software to another <em>dramatically</em> easier.<br><br>If you're concerned about your privacy, let me tell you this:<br><br>Hubzilla's privacy, security and permissions system is unparalleled in the Fediverse. Except for that on (streams) and Forte which is another notch better.<br><br>I can define who can see my profile (my default, public profile on Hubzilla where each channel can have multiple profiles).<br>I can define who can see my stream and my posts when looking at my channel.<br>I can define who can see my connections (Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte don't distinguish between follower and followed; they aren't Twitter clones).<br>I can define who can look into my file space (individual permission settings per folder and per file notwithstanding).<br>I can define who can see my webpages on Hubzilla (if I have any).<br>I can define who can see my wikis on Hubzilla (<a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/wiki/jupiter_rowland" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">no shit, I've got wikis on my Hubzilla channel</a>).<br><br>On Hubzilla, I can define <em>individually</em> for any of these whether it's<br><ul><li>everyone on the Internet</li><li>everyone with a recognisable Fediverse account</li><li>everyone on Hubzilla (maybe also on (streams); anyone using ActivityPub is definitely excluded here)</li><li>everyone on the same server as myself (AFAIK, only main instances of channels count here, clones don't)</li><li>unapproved (= followers) as well as approved (= mutual) connections</li><li>confirmed connections</li><li>those of my confirmed connections whom I explicitly grant that permission by contact role</li><li>only myself</li></ul><br><a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_channel_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">There's a whole bunch more permissions than these</a>. And they all have seven or eight permission levels (depending on whether the general non-Fediverse public can be given permission).<br><br>On (streams) and Forte, I can define whether things are allowed for<br><ul><li>everyone on the Internet (where applicable)</li><li>everyone with a recognisable Fediverse account</li><li>all my approved connections</li><li>only me myself plus those whom I explicitly grant that permission in the connection settings</li></ul><br>Yes, connection settings. Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte give you various ways of configuring individual connections, much unlike Mastodon. This includes what any individual connection is allowed to do.<br><br>Hubzilla uses so-called "contact roles" for that, presets with a whopping 17 permissions to grant or deny for any one individual connection. That is, what the channel generally allows, a contact role can't forbid.<br><br>(streams) and Forte still have 15 permissions per contact, but they lack some features which Hubzilla has permissions for. These permissions can be set individually for each connection, or you can define permission roles that cover all 15 permissions to make things easier.<br><br>Okay, how about posting in public vs in private? And when I say "private", I <em>mean</em> "private". It's "private messages" on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte, not "direct messages".<br><br>Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte let you post<br><ul><li>in public</li><li>only to yourself</li><li>only to your connections ((streams) and Forte only; Hubzilla requires a privacy group with all your connections in it for this)</li><li>to all members of one specific privacy group (Hubzilla)/access list ((streams), Forte); that's like being able to only post to those on one specific list on Mastodon</li><li>to everyone to whom one specific non-default profile is assigned (Hubzilla only)</li><li>to a specific group/forum (I'll get back to that later)</li><li>to a custom one-by-one selection of connections of yours</li></ul><br>Now, let's assume I have a privacy group with Alice, Bob and Carol in it. I send a new post to only this privacy group. This means:<br><ul><li>Only Alice, Bob and Carol can see the post and the conversation.</li><li>Alice can reply to me, Bob and Carol.</li><li>Bob can reply to me, Alice and Carol.</li><li>Carol can reply to me, Alice and Bob.</li><li>Nobody else can see the post. Not even by searching for it. Not by hashtag either. Not at all.</li><li>Nobody else can see any of the comments.</li><li>Nobody else can comment.</li></ul><br>If one of them was on Mastodon, they'd see my post as a DM, by the way, and they could only reply to me. But that's Mastodon's limitation because it understands neither threaded conversations nor permissions.<br><br>Or how about reply control? This is something that many Mastodon users have been craving for quite a while now. Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte have them. Right now. And they work. They have since 2012.<br><br>Hubzilla optionally lets me disallow comments on either of my posts. Users on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte won't even be able to comment; they won't have the UI elements to do so. Everyone else is able to comment locally. But that comment will never end up on my channel. It will never officially be added to the conversation. And at least users on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte will never fetch that comment from my channel as part of the conversation, i.e. never at all.<br><br>(streams) and Forte can go even further with all available options. They can disallow comments like Hubzilla. But in addition, they can allow only the members of one particular access list to comment, regardless of who can see the post/the conversation. On top of that, comments can be closed at a pre-defined point in the future. And then you even have a channel-wide setting for how long people can comment on your posts.<br><br>Oh, and there's even a setting for who is generally permitted to comment on your posts. And you can additionally allow specific connections of yours to comment on your posts.<br><br>Lastly, I've already mentioned groups/forums. Like, you know, Web forums or Facebook groups or subreddits or whatever. Like Guppe Groups on a mountain of coke and with moderation and permission control and optionally private.<br><br>Hubzilla has them, and it has inherited them from Friendica. (streams) has them. Forte has them. They're basically channels like social networking channels, but with some extra features. This includes that everything that's send to a group/forum as what amounts to a PM is automatically forwarded to all other members.<br><br>On Hubzilla, a forum can be gradually made private by denying permission to see certain elements to everyone but its own members (= connections): the profile, the members, what's going on in it. Depending on what you want or do not want people to see.<br><br>On (streams) and Forte, you have four types of forums:<br><ul><li>public, and members can upload images and other files to the forum channel</li><li>public, but members cannot upload images and other files to the forum channel</li><li>like above, but additionally, posts and comments from new members must be manually approved by the admin(s) until their connections are configured to make them full members</li><li>private, non-members can't see the profile, non-members can't see the connections, non-members can't see what's going on in it, but members can upload images and other files to the forum channel</li></ul><br>In addition, on all three, a group/forum channel can choose to hide itself from directories. This is always an extra option that's independent from public/private.<br><br>What we have here is the most secure and most private Fediverse software of all.<br><br>And, once again, at its core, this is technology from 2012. It pre-dates Mastodon by almost four years.<br><br>Finally, if you want to know how Hubzilla and (streams) compare to Mastodon: <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/0a75de76-eb27-4149-b708-f20b2f79d392" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I have made a number of tables that compare Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams).</a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mitra" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mitra</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ActivityPub</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Zot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Zot6" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zot6</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Zot8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zot8</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Nomad" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nomad</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NomadicIdentity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NomadicIdentity</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Security" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Security</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseSecurity" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseSecurity</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Privacy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Privacy</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediversePrivacy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediversePrivacy</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Permissions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Permissions</a>
Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝<strong><span class="">#^</span><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/jhsipri" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla: Sicherheit und Privatsphäre</a></strong><br><br><a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/photos/pepecyb/image/5d00ab8d-80a4-402f-ac4a-c7491755d2ad" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br><blockquote>Hubzilla vereint Sicherheit, Privatsphäre, Zugangskontrolle und Eigentum auf ein und der selben Plattform...</blockquote><br><br><a href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/articles/pepecyb/jhsipri" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">..:: WEITERLESEN ::..</a><br><br><a class="" href="https://hubzilla.hu/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=FediverseTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseTips</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.hubzilla.hu/search?tag=hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla</a>
Alexander Goeres 𒀯an alle, die finden, bei der aktuellen funktionsweise von mastodon fehle noch etwas.<br><br>meine persönliche entscheidung für hubzilla kam daher, dass ich das dilemma von g+ nicht mehr erleben wollte: service weg, posts weg. die möglichkeit, alles von einem hub zu einem anderen mitzunehmen oder auch nur alles auf einen anderen hub zu klonen, um nicht durch den ausfall meines heim-hubs ausgeknockt zu werden, war entscheidend für die wahl von hubzilla. und mastodon hat da bis jetzt keine alternative geliefert.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=mul" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mul</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%F0%92%80%AF" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">𒀯</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=social-media" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">social-media</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=socmed" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">socmed</a><br><br> <a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><span><a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Schlotfeldt ⚓?️?</a> wrote the following <a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/item/97c9b844-761f-42ab-b61b-6bee424c7aca" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">post</a> <span class="">Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:26:19 +0100</span></span> New Blogpost: <a href="https://www.tschlotfeldt.de/wiki/2025-03-19_Hallo_Fediverse%2c_f%c3%bcr_bestimmte_Probleme_gibt_es_schon_L%c3%b6sungen_wie_es_wie_Nomadische_Identit%c3%a4ten" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hallo Fediverse, für bestimmte Probleme gibt es schon Lösungen wie die Nomadische Identitäten</a><br><br><blockquote>Auf GNU/Linux.ch ist ein Beitrag von dem Autor „Udo M.“ erschienen, der sich mit bestimmten Defiziten im Fediverse auseinandersetzt. Die Defizite sind meines Erachtens auch gut erkannt. Was fehlt ist in dem Artikel ist der Hinweis auf eine mögliche Lösung, denn diese existiert konzeptionell und auch ganz real für andere Plattformen wie beispielsweise Hubzilla. Und darum halte ich es für so wichtig, auf diese Lösungen aufmerksam zu machen, damit sie sie von anderen Plattformen „entdeckt“ und implementiert werden können.<br><br>Aber zurück zu dem Beitrag mit dem Titel<br><br><blockquote>Bluesky und Mastodon: Eine kritische Betrachtung der Föderation und Identitätsverwaltung. </blockquote><br><br>Das Thema Bluesky lasse ich außen vor, weil das in meinen Augen im Sinne einer digitalen Souveränität keine ernsthafte Plattform sein kein (unter anderem finanziert mit Risikokapital von Crypto-Bros). Udo M. schreibt:<br><br><blockquote>Ein zentrales Problem bleibt die Federation: Die NutzerInnen sind an die Instanz gebunden, auf der sie sich registriert haben. Zwar gibt es die Möglichkeit, die Instanz zu wechseln, doch dieser Vorgang ist nicht immer problemlos. Instanzen können verschwinden, ohne dass die NutzerInnen eine Möglichkeit haben, ihre Identität und Inhalte an einen neuen Ort zu migrieren. Zwar bietet Mastodon die theoretische Möglichkeit der „Instanzmigration“, doch diese funktioniert nur, wenn die ursprüngliche Instanz noch existiert und bereit ist, die Migration zu unterstützen. In der Praxis bedeutet dies, dass NutzerIn bei einem Instanzwechsel auf die Gnade der Instanzbetreiber angewiesen sind. <br></blockquote><br>Die Lösung dazu ist die „Nomadische Identität“ des Hubzilla-Protokolls Zot6. Die Idee dahinter stammt von dem Australier Mike Macgirvin, der genau dieses Problem lösen wollte und mit der Implementierung des Protokolls in Hubzilla dies auch erreicht hat. Nun spricht allerdings ein Großteil des Fediverses nicht Zot6 sondern ActivityPub. Darum hat Mike sich daran gemacht, das Konzept der nomadischen Identität in ActivityPub zu implementieren und so prinzipiell anderen Systemen beziehungsweise Plattformen es zu ermöglichen, diese Funktion zu übernehmen. Am 11.03.2025 hat er seine Lösung unter der Überschrift Forte v25.3.12 released veröffentlicht: <br><br>[…]</blockquote>
Hiker<span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jupiter_rowland</span></a></span><br>Danke für deinen langen Post (der von <a class="hashtag" href="https://akk.fedcast.ch/tag/hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hubzilla</a> und nicht von Mastodon kommt) und der einmal aufsammelt, was da schon über Jahre im Konflikt schwelt, weil das <a class="hashtag" href="https://akk.fedcast.ch/tag/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> immer wieder und immer noch nur als Mastodon wahrgenommen wird. <br><span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://moppels.bar/@crossgolf_rebel" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>crossgolf_rebel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://moppels.bar/@BrauchC" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BrauchC</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://troet.social/@friedi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>friedi</span></a></span>
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