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Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iFixit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iFixit</a> <blockquote>and it doesn't look like you can attach documents to posts</blockquote> You can't on Mastodon. I could, both here on <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> and on <a href="https://joinfediverse.wiki/(streams)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> where I post my images. But I wouldn't have to. Vanilla Mastodon has a character limit of 500. Hubzilla has a character "limit" that's so staggeringly high that nobody knows how high it is because it doesn't matter. (streams), from the same creator and the same software family as Hubzilla, has a character "limit" of over 24,000,000 which is not an arbitrary design decision but simply the size of the database field. By the way: Both are in the Fediverse, and both are federated with Mastodon, so Mastodon's "all media must have accurate and sufficiently detailed descriptions" rule applies there as well unless you don't care if thousands upon thousands of Mastodon users block you for not supplying image and media descriptions. In theory, I could publish a video of ten minutes, and in the same post, I could add a full, timestamped description that takes several hours to read. Verbatim transcript of all spoken words. Detailed description of the visuals where "detailed" means "as detailed as Mastodon loves its alt-texts" as in "800 characters of alt-text or more for a close-up of a single flower in front of a blurry background" detailed. Detailed description of all camera movements and cuts. Description of non-spoken-word noises. All timestamped, probably with over a hundred timestamps for the whole description of ten minutes of video. Now I'm wondering if that could be helpful or actually required, or if it's overkill and actually a hindrance. CC: @<a href="https://connectified.com/@masukomi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">masukomi</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GunChleoc</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://connectified.com/@masukomi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">masukomi</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@iFixit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iFixit</a> And this is only mostly a transcript of the spoken words. What if someone actually took upon themselves the effort to describe a video with a timestamped/timecoded combination of visual description, spoken word transcript and non-spoken word audio description? Especially if the visual description is on the same high level of detail that's expected in the Fediverse? CC: @<a href="https://mastodon.scot/@gunchleoc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">GunChleoc</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.radio/@M0YNG" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christopher M0YNG</a> Just out of curiosity: What would be an appropriate textual description for a video? A description of what the video is about? Or a detailed, time-coded description of the actual visuals throughout the whole video plus a detailed, time-coded transcript of the audio in the video? If the latter, what details are required, regardless of topic and content? CC: @<a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stefan Bohacek</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=VideoDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VideoDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=VideoDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VideoDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>

PaulaToThePeopleThird and last report about media description statistics on this server.Since the last time 58% of media posts had decent media descriptions, as far as I'm concerned.In total I checked 1247 media posts since October 23 and 776 posts (62%) had adequate captions.<a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/captions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#captions</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/MediaDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescriptions</a> <a href="https://climatejustice.social/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://tweesecake.social/@weirdwriter" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Robert Kingett, blind</a> I don't trust anything generated. At least not with super-obscure niche content like what I post. And audio descriptions in general are why I'll never publish videos in the Fediverse. I'd have to go into similar detail as for my pictures, only for moving pictures plus sound plus voice-over now. My descriptions would have to be so detailed that the video would have to pause to let the audio description catch up with the visuals. In fact, the video would spend more time paused while the audio description is rambling than actually moving, and it would never spend more than a few seconds moving at a time. For one, I would have to describe and explain what the video shows at the very same level of detailed as I describe my images. And at least once I've described one single image at such a level of detail that it'd probably take a screen reader one full hour to read the image description aloud. Besides, I would have take into account that it's a video. Everything would need timestamps. And instead of only describing the camera position and the camera angle, I would have to describe the camera movements like so: Seven minutes, eighteen point one three seconds. The camera quickly rotates to the left around a vertical axis through a point roughly two point four metres straight ahead of the avatar. It starts rotating from the direction in which the avatar is facing, roughly twelve degrees to the east of north. The barn which has first appeared at five minutes, fifty-two point two eight seconds comes into view again, including all decoration around it. The camera only rotates around this vertical axis and not around any horizontal axis. The avatar does not rotate with the camera. Seven minutes, eighteen point six four seconds: The video pauses to let this description catch up. Seven minutes, eighteen point seven one seconds: The video no longer pauses. The camera reaches a rotation angle of roughly twenty degrees to the south of west. The rotation speed of the camera slows down. It continues to rotate to the left. Seven minutes, eighteen point nine three seconds: The video pauses to let this description catch up. Seven minutes, nineteen point zero four seconds: The video no longer pauses. The camera stops rotating at an angle of roughly twenty-five degrees to the west of south. That is, in order to cater to deaf-blind users, I would have to have two time codes. One, the time code of the original video, not taking the pauses into account. Two, the time code of the described video with catch-up pauses. And the video with catch-up pauses would be dramatically longer than the original video. Ten minutes of video would take me weeks to describe, probably over a month. And it would end up many hours long, depending on how much there is to describe and explain. So a time code in the Braille description for deaf-blind users might actually read, "Six minutes, thirty-seven point five five seconds in the original video, fourteen hours, three minutes, forty-nine point two one seconds in this described version of the video." By the way, no, an AI can't do that. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AudioDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AudioDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AudioDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AudioDescriptions</a>

Jupiter RowlandThis sounds like good advice... <a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fedi.Tips</a> schrieb den folgenden <a href="https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips/112276178981480628" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Beitrag</a> Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:28:51 +0200 If you're posting a video clip or an audio clip attached to a post, remember to include a text description which describes the sound. This is important so that the video or audio is accessible to deaf people. Also, if it's a video, it's important to describe both the sound and the visuals so that it's accessible to everyone. Text descriptions for audio and video are added just like text descriptions for images (exact steps vary depending on which app you use). <a href="https://social.growyourown.services/tags/FediTips" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediTips</a> <a href="https://social.growyourown.services/tags/Accessibility" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Accessibility</a> ...but in my case, this would go out of hand. So much that I've completely discarded the idea of posting in-world videos. I'm someone who has taken most of a day to describe three still images in a post in <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/8c2b4728-dda5-498b-9f84-2f11e163a4a5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a combined almost 77,000 characters</a> which take over an hour to read. No, you haven't misread any of this. And <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/95b6e36d-7fcd-4791-8cc1-c93e8b9975a3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">yes, this effort is necessary in my case.</a> Of course, if I were to describe a video, I'd have to go as much into details. However, there'd be a whole lot more to describe. The video would constantly change. It would show much much more than a still image. There'd be audio that'd require detailed description instead of just name-dropping. All of it. Yes, including panning position. Movements of my avatar would have to be described. Movements of the camera around my avatar as well as independently from my avatar would have to be described. All movements would of course require distances, angles, speeds and changes of speed The description would require a time code: Everything that happens would have to be mentioned including when exactly it happens, and since things might happen quickly or in quick succession, I'm talking about at least tenths of seconds. Ten minutes of in-world video would take me weeks to describe, and the description would be the length of a novel and take a whole day to read. Mastodon users would never see the post with the video because, as far as I know, Mastodon automatically rejects all external posts that exceed 100,000 characters, and I'm talking about millions of characters here. I don't even know if Hubzilla would let me post that much, and Hubzilla doesn't have any character limits except for what the Web server can handle. Nobody would ever read this, so the whole effort would be in vain. But anything less than this would be critically lacking. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=VideoDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VideoDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=VideoDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">VideoDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=A11y" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A11y</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Accessibility" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Accessibility</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://universeodon.com/@FreakyFwoof" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andre Louis</a> What kind of description do you have in mind? Only a brief mention what the audio is? Or a full verbatim transcript of all words in the audio plus full descriptions of all the other sounds in the audio, time-coded in seconds and milliseconds and, if it's music, additionally in bars, quarters and even shorter notes? #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://cutie.city/@OctaviaConAmore" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars:</a> Such transcripts don't go into alt-text. I mean, into the alt-text of what should they even go? They go into the post itself, of course. At least I hope that there's enough room for that on Funkwhale and/or Castopod. And nobody would host a podcast on Mastodon which, except for Threads, is the only Fediverse project with a 500-character limit. As for my image descriptions, as I've said, these monsters go into the post text body. Right where you have a 500-character limit, and I don't have any limit whatsoever at all. The three links in my previous comment should demonstrate how I do it. It isn't very accessible to have blind or visually-impaired users open a separate webpage just to have an image described, especially if they're on a phone, and they have the post with the image in one app (their Mastodon app) and the description in another (their browser). It's always best to have the image and the description in the same place. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Transcript" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transcript</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Transcripts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transcripts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Accessibility" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Accessibility</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=A11y" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A11y</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://cutie.city/@OctaviaConAmore" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars:</a> I'm serious in everything. When I said I write extremely long image description, <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/136f021c-06cb-4e38-abe6-2bf37fd521d8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">I was</a> <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/8c2b4728-dda5-498b-9f84-2f11e163a4a5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">absolutely</a> <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/c8a14063-b4e2-48fa-baf9-cb4faef7225b" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">serious</a>. And just like visuals need to be described for non-sighted people, audio needs to be described for people without or with impaired hearing. At least, pure spoken word audio needs verbatim transcripts. But I'm pretty sure there are people in the Fediverse who demand written descriptions for all audio in the Fediverse. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Transcript" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transcript</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Transcripts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Transcripts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Accessibility" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Accessibility</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=A11y" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A11y</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://cutie.city/@OctaviaConAmore" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars:</a> Asking as someone who already writes image descriptions that exceed anything known to Mastodon by titanic magnitudes: What would be sufficient alt-text for music? A detailed description of every bit of sound in that piece of music, interspersed with lyrics and a description of the sung melody, time-coded in both milliseconds and bars? #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MediaDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MediaDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Accessibility" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Accessibility</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=A11y" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A11y</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Music" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Music</a>

MayanaHow has a lack of media descriptions/alt text affected you, here as well as elsewhere on the internet (other social media, Discord servers and other chatting communities, etc.)? (Unfortunately, the choice limit has left me unable to acknowledge those of you who are not affected by this issue. How inconvenient! I do hope you don't feel this is unfair ... :eyeless_smile: ) I have ... (Pick all that apply) <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/Poll" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Poll</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/Polls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Polls</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/Blind" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blind</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/Blindness" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blindness</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/VisuallyImpaired" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VisuallyImpaired</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/DisabilityMonth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DisabilityMonth</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/DisabilityPrideMonth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DisabilityPrideMonth</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/DisabilityWrathMonth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DisabilityWrathMonth</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/ImageDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ImageDescriptions</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/MediaDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescriptions</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#accessibility</a> <a href="https://dragonscave.space/tags/images" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#images</a>

Aran FielderThanks everyone! Thanks to <a href="https://mspsocial.net/@t54r4n1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@t54r4n1</a> for showing me :help_describe: and some guidance for making descriptions, <a href="https://mastodon.world/@lukethelibrarian" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@lukethelibrarian</a> for showing me <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/imagecaptionspls" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@imagecaptionspls</a> and <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/ALT4me" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ALT4me</a>, and <a href="https://dragonscave.space/@Mayana" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Mayana</a> for a post linking to some CSS that, should someone be looking directly on my instance, will make it clearer that the image lacks description with a prominent border.I'm hoping this will help make my posts more accessible from here on out.<a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/Accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Accessibility</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/MediaDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescriptions</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/Help" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Help</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/MastoHelp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MastoHelp</a>

Aran FielderSo I upload art, but I understand the need for media descriptions. The problem is I often don't have the spoons / capabilities to create an explanation that is clear and makes sense. Particularly if I'm especially manic/disocciated/overwhelmed/fatigued etc.Does anyone have any tips to make this easier? I don't wish to alienate a whole section of people because of this but also don't wanna keep putting it off if there are solutions. <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/Accessibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Accessibility</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/MediaDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescriptions</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/AltText" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AltText</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/Help" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Help</a> <a href="https://masto.aranfielder.art/tags/MastoHelp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MastoHelp</a>

FiXato<a href="https://mastodon.online/@sherold" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sherold</a> a year ago the same short (which apparently is from a story The Young Turks did in 2018) apparently also went viral in response to Polish government also further limiting the autonomy of people with a uturus, and <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/AnaKasparian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AnaKasparian</a> of <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/TheYoungTurks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheYoungTurks</a> reacted to the virality of her own rant at the time: <a href="https://youtu.be/xjYyRy-2ONY" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/xjYyRy-2ONY</a>Fortunately this video came with <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/ClosedCaptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClosedCaptions</a>, so I was able to extract the <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/transcript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#transcript</a> of her rant:<blockquote>«These comments might be strong, but it's how I genuinely feel I don't care that you're a Christian. I don't care what the Bible says. Like, I feel like it's a clown show, like sitting here trying to decipher what your little mythical book has to say about these very real political issues, right? I don't care if you're Christian. In fact, I will fight for you to have your religious liberty and practice your Christianity, I believe in that. I don't believe in Christianity, which means that you do not get to dictate the way I live my life based on your religion. I don't care what the Bible says. You have every right in the world. All those women who identify with your religion have every right in the world to not get an abortion, to not take birth control, but they do not have the right to dictate my life, and what I decided to do with my body. I don't care about your goddamn religion. I'm so tired of having non stop conversations about what the Bible says. You live your life in the way that you interpret the bible. Again, I don't care, but you don't get to take the bible and tell me, well, the bible says this in this chapter and this verse. I don't care, I don't care, I don't believe in it and I have the right, based on our constitution to not believe in it.» — Ana Kasparian on The Young Turks, 2018</blockquote><a href="https://toot.cat/tags/DescribedMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DescribedMedia</a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/MediaDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescriptions</a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/RoeVsWade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RoeVsWade</a> (repost because of incorrect link)

FiXato<a href="https://mastodon.online/@sherold" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sherold</a> a year ago the same short (which apparently is from a story The Young Turks did in 2018) apparently also went viral in response to Polish government also further limiting the autonomy of people with a uturus, and <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/AnaKasparian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AnaKasparian</a> of <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/TheYoungTurks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheYoungTurks</a> reacted to the virality of her own rant at the time: <a href="https://youtu.be/VAvFfrYA2LM" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/VAvFfrYA2LM</a>Fortunately this video came with <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/ClosedCaptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClosedCaptions</a>, so I was able to extract the <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/transcript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#transcript</a> of her rant:<blockquote>«These comments might be strong, but it's how I genuinely feel I don't care that you're a Christian. I don't care what the Bible says. Like, I feel like it's a clown show, like sitting here trying to decipher what your little mythical book has to say about these very real political issues, right? I don't care if you're Christian. In fact, I will fight for you to have your religious liberty and practice your Christianity, I believe in that. I don't believe in Christianity, which means that you do not get to dictate the way I live my life based on your religion. I don't care what the Bible says. You have every right in the world. All those women who identify with your religion have every right in the world to not get an abortion, to not take birth control, but they do not have the right to dictate my life, and what I decided to do with my body. I don't care about your goddamn religion. I'm so tired of having non stop conversations about what the Bible says. You live your life in the way that you interpret the bible. Again, I don't care, but you don't get to take the bible and tell me, well, the bible says this in this chapter and this verse. I don't care, I don't care, I don't believe in it and I have the right, based on our constitution to not believe in it.»</blockquote><a href="https://toot.cat/tags/DescribedMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DescribedMedia</a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/MediaDescriptions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MediaDescriptions</a> <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/RoeVsWade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RoeVsWade</a>

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