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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@fabiscafe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fabiscafe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@okapi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>okapi</span></a></span> espechally in the form of an interactive desktop...</p><ul><li><p>I could see it valid for multiple shell sessions, but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tmux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tmux</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/screen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>screen</span></a> cover that pretty well.</p></li><li><p>If one has to login into different machines then chances are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/aithentification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>aithentification</span></a> is centralized anyway.</p></li></ul><p>Needless to say <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/modernizations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>modernizations</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> don't happen because people like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> are <em>"hobbyless"</em>, but because the preexisting status-quo (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a>) was slow, inflexible and error-prone by strict linearity and non-parallelization.</p><ul><li>With a literal <code>/etc/init</code> file one can literally get a system to hang due to a mistake (i.e. certain call doesn't get invoked correctly), whereas on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> (and competing solutions like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LaunchD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LaunchD</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMF</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Solaris</span></a>) your desktop / laptop will continue to noot even if it doesn't have a network connection. </li></ul><p>Not to mention as Benno Rice explained: <em>'Shit just gotmore dynamic!'</em>: We don't have that one big ass maingrame and serial terminals, instead we have laptops that may he carried around a campus or traveled with all day and that constantly switch between wireless and wired networks and have VPN tunnels open and whatnot...</p>
gnarf<p>Wahrscheinlich hat <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/fefe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fefe</span></a> ein Angebot von Microsoft bekommen, dass er nicht ablehnen konnte.<br>Systemd-KI mit <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>poettering</span></a> oder so.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.doskel.net/@doskel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>doskel</span></a></span> you can thank <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> et. al. for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PipeWire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PipeWire</span></a> stuff...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://piou.foolbazar.eu/@joel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>joel</span></a></span> I mean, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> wasn't done by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> because he had no hobbies - far from it.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a> sucks and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> needs to modernize and change solely because many components like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Xorg</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OSS</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ALSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ALSA</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenGL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenGL</span></a> are to be retired or are already only on life support.</li></ul><p>SystemD, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PipeWire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PipeWire</span></a> is a <em>"necessary evil"</em> because the preexisting solutions are slow, not adaptive, cumbersome or just don't work well at all (i.e. mixed (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DPI</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HiDPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HiDPI</span></a>) screens with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X11</span></a> are just broken!</p><ul><li>People had years if not over a decade to fix those but they didn't and it's clear that a new &amp; clean slate was necessary...</li></ul>
GNU/Trinukso ۞<p>Acabo de leer (de alguien "random") que <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> es conocido por su tendencia a ignorar temas de seguridad... A mí no me da esa impresión, sinceramente, para nada. ¿A tanto llega el odio a <a href="https://masto.ai/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> para insultar y acusar a este señor?</p>
Colonel Kramer 🇮🇱<p>Lennart <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> is a sadist, and <a href="https://digitalcourage.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> users are obviously masochists 😬️</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@forrestguid" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>forrestguid</span></a></span> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PipeWire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PipeWire</span></a> - like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> - fixes a lot of issues and I think it's unfair that people literally harass people like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> that do this vital yet thankless work.</p><p>People should be thankful that people like him put up with toxic trash of Stallmanists and Haters, because I would've reconsidered if the pay to do so is good enough.</p>
mirabilos<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://nya.social/@linear" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>linear</span></a></span> Debian 11 will still have 10 months of regular security support, then LTS and ELTS, but I’m not yet sure what will be afterwards (Debian 12 is poetteringified too much already, and <strong>they</strong>’re <em>actively</em> investing into <strong>breaking</strong> nōn-<a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> use cases for what will become <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a> 13, so I’d probably be a bit wary of installing it fresh for something you’ll want to run for more than six years or so, unless you plan on doing security support afterwards yourself.</p><p>tbh I’m probably looking at <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NetBSD</span></a> as long-term replacement even for $dayjob or maybe <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenBSD</span></a>.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debacle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://shota.house/users/zakiuem" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zakiuem</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://shota.house/users/disabled" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>disabled</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://shota.house/users/gamercat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gamercat</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Devuan</span></a> is just a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/hategrooming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hategrooming</span></a> bubble against <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a>.<br><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> is just their pretext to do so.</p><p>I just think that Devuan is an utter waste if time and personnel hours.that could've been spent way better on making <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> generally better...</p><p>Cuz I've yet to see anyone wanting <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SystemVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SystemVinit</span></a> back.<br>Not even <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Oracle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Oracle</span></a> / <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Sun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sun</span></a> want it in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Solaris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Solaris</span></a> (<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SMF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMF</span></a>) nor <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a> in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a> (<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LaunchD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LaunchD</span></a>)...</p>
trashHeap :hehim: :verified_gay:<p>Considering that most major <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> distros (corporate or not) are <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a>'s direct competitors in the server market; does that not make it more than a little awkward that <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Poettering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Poettering</span></a> is going to be both a Microsoft employee and the chief developer on <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> ?</p><p>I know Microsoft is no stranger to hiring existing FLOSS devs. But systemd is a pretty major bit of system level middleware that is ever absorbing more of the linux stack, right?</p>
tallshipOkay... Confession time. I did the <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/devuan" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Devuan</a> thing for a while and then just said, "Why? I've still got several several major major Unices with support for <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/sysv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SysV</a> or <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/bsd" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BSD</a> style init scripts, and many distros also support <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/openrc" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenRC</a> (which I've never used in production, only playing around in <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/gentoo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Gentoo</a>), and although I might deny this if you tell anyone, I actually enjoy using <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/systemd" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SystemD</a> with <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/debian" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Debian</a> and <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/centos" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CentOS</a>. (Shhhh! Mum's the word okay?)<br><br>I'm still a Devuan advocate and contributor though 😎<br><br>But this whole /home/$UID.homedir idea is, so far, total crap!<br><br>1.) Fricken username collisions - how does one accommodate my homedir on a USB stick if there's another 'tallship' already on the system?<br><br>2.) How does <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/ssh" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SSH</a> read my public <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/ed25519" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ed25519</a> key on the remote box when it's <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/luks" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LUKS</a> encrypted until I'm logged in? Duh!<br><br>3.) You're gonna <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/chown" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chown</a> my dirs? WTF? - what about the daemons in my ~/ tree that I set to other UIDs??? And many of those applications are, by convention, set to UIDs higher than 1000 (i.e., many <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/slackbuilds" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Slackbuilds</a>)<br><br>I hope <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/poettering" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Poettering</a> gets food poisoning the next time he goes out for 🍣 <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/sushi" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sushi</a>!<br><br>But... I think they wrote this next part just for me personally, to keep my blood pressure in check (or maybe it's just lip service until they can <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/aybabtu" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AYBABTU</a>):<br><br>"So, there’s no need for anyone to go into&nbsp;full-on pitchforks and burning torches mode. Because the standard methods for managing users and home directories will remain, we’ll all still have choice"<br><br>If that's REALLY true, I can see me being okay with this in various use cases lol.<br><br>Don't tread on my /etc/rc.local lolz 🤡<br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/tallship" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tallship</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/vger" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Vger</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/wtf" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WTF</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/homectl" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#homectl</a> You no can haz <a class="hashtag" href="https://pleroma.cloud/tag/cheezburgerz" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Cheezburgerz</a>!<br><br>⛵<br><br>.