Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debby</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Stuxhost</span></a></span> well, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> is not using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a>) but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME on regular <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a>, which makes it way easier to setup in organizations as <em>not "yet another server needed"</em> and also easier to comply with <em>mandatory <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/archival" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>archival</span></a> laws</em> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/business" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>business</span></a> use-cases.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>, do not have their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>backend</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a>|d nor allow <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> and demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> for registration if not useage for no valid reason. Plus they are not just able but obviously willing to snitch on their users (something neither DeltaChat nor monocles chat demand or even can as both do 100% <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys!)</p></li><li><p>As for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sustainability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sustainability</span></a>, monocles is financed by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscribers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subscribers</span></a> <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/account/account/#account_types" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">(they charge like €2 p.m. for mail & chat)</a> and they can be paid <em>completely anonymously</em> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a>!), whereas <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MoneyBurningParty</span></a> which engages in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>!) for no valid reason…</p></li></ul>