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@ciourte @netopwibby Needless to say I've only heard of some Spanish low-cost #MVNO offering one device only in a #prepaid #bundle when #FirefoxOS was unveiled at the #MWC in #Barcelona based off coverage in @ct_Magazin at the time.

  • Cuz I remember #WebDevs like @fuchsiii really loving it because it was the then hot & fresh #HTML5 + #JS6 + #CSS3 combo to make it super-easy to do #Apps. All one needs to build an app was #Firefox as Browser and the ability to basically zip' it.

Alas @Mozilla deciding on purpose to literally splinter the market by letting #MNO|s and MVNOs run their #AppStore|s instead of a #centralized model, making the situation worse than in the "P.R." #China where there are several vendor-independent #AppStores for #Android.

  • "Conspiracy Theorists" even suggested that this was deliberate self-sabotage to benefit #Google and #Android, tho needless to say Firefox OS aimed at devices & specs that were too low for Android.

Still, I'm #StillMad at #Mozilla for faceplanting Firefox OS cuz it had the easiest way to get started and a good architecture being every #App is just a #WebApp and all the system calls were standard #HTML5 permissions and nothing fancy.

youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU

#webdevs

DO NOT FUCK WITH THE BACK BUTTON.

The browser back button is meant to navigate back. It is not an invitation to pop up stupid shit. Negative marks to space dot com for doing this most recently.

@AmenZwa also I think a lot.of #WebDevs need to stop showing off and instead start building unique, sleek & privacy-respecting sites...

@matuzo seriously, thank you for your #web #accessibility cookbook!

We're currently fixing accessibility on our site (medium sized web shop) and nearly *every* page in your book hits a topic right before our eyes!

And it's clearly written and does not over explain things. It's just on point.

Never had such a strong recommendation for a book for #frontend #webdevs

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@frumble @mozilla Und ja, alle #WebDevs die ich kenne waren begeistert wo #FirefoxOS vorgestellt wurde weil dann ist #Apps programmieren umso einfacher und ohne Bullshit möglich...

  • Doof nur dass weder ich noch @fuchsiii noch sonstwer den ich kannte je ein #Firefox-OS - Gerät kaufen konnten, egal wieviel es gekostet hätte.

Die einzigen FirefoxOS-Geräte in der #EU waren #SimLock'd / #NetLock'd #Prepaid-Handys die nur in Spanien bei Telefonica nur als Bundle mit SIM in Shops verkauft wurden!

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@Cheatha Technisch lassen sich solche Modals (mittlerweile) problemlos ohne JS realisieren. Auch eigene Url und Back-Button Support sind kein Hexenwerk. Als Webentwickler sehr ich das nicht (mehr) als Problem. Aber man kann sowas dank #react oder #angular natürlich auch extrem schlecht implementieren. Kommt halt auf die Erfahrung des #webdevs an!

then implements modern features in Safari/Webkit really slowly

That's good actually, because you #webdevs keep chasing the shiny new features #Chrome / #Chromium / #Blink is pushing to the #web like fucking fireflies, to the detriment of #webcompat with small #browsers like #PaleMoon, #Basilisk, and others based on #UXP / #Goanna / #XUL (like #SeaMonkey).

As someone who used to work actively in Pale Moon's development, I am witness to a website that almost broke its #compatibility with my #browser but was stopped because the new feature it wanted to require was not yet available in an old #Safari / #WebKit version they're still supporting.

So yes, from my point of view, #Apple does more to support the #openweb than #Mozilla and #Firefox (which always follows Chrome whenever it's not controversial) does, even if it didn't intend to. And to be clear, I am not even an Apple fanboy. The only Apple device I own is this ancient 1st generation of the iPad mini. I don't like their ecosystem.

So it's not a bad take. It's the reality we independent desktop browser developers see in #webdev. ☕

#MissedQuoteBoost of tenforward.social/@packetcat/1

Ten Forwardpacketcat (@packetcat@tenforward.social)Content warning: dunking on a bad take re: Apple and browser engine choice on iOS
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Not to mention that sadly, @landley is right:

If #FLOSS would result in good #UI & #UX, #WebDevs like @fuchsiii would be out of their jobs!

And sadly that is a problem that only few [i.e. #Canonical at least does] adress [on their core product @ubuntu LTS Desktop - even tho @opensuse / #OpenSUSE's #YaST may be seen as easier to work with for entry-level #Sysadmins since it's a better reimagination to the #Windows Control Panel]...

youtube.com/watch?v=SGmtP5Lg_t