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Christian Pietsch<p>Die <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedifreu.de/@Datenpunks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Datenpunks</span></a></span> haben Ingo Dachwitz nach Bielefeld eingeladen, damit er das Sachbuch <em>Digitaler Kolonialismus</em> vorstellt, das er zusammen mit Sven Hilbig geschrieben hat. Und <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@roofjoke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>roofjoke</span></a></span> hat zugesagt!</p><p><em>Wann?</em> 24. Juli 2025. Einlass 19:45 Uhr, Beginn 20 Uhr.<br><em>Wo?</em> Buchladen Eulenspiegel, Hagenbruchstraße 7, 33602 Bielefeld.</p><p>Dank der Unterstützung der <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@dsee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dsee</span></a></span> ist die Lesung mit anschließendem Gespräch kostenlos. Eine vorherige Anmeldung auf <a href="https://datenpunks.de/event/lesung-digitaler-kolonialismus/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">datenpunks.de/event/lesung-dig</span><span class="invisible">italer-kolonialismus/</span></a> ist nötig.</p><p><a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/digitalerKolonialismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>digitalerKolonialismus</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Lesung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lesung</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Sachbuch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sachbuch</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/OWL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OWL</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Bielefeld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Bielefeld</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Netzpolitik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Netzpolitik</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Kolonialismis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Kolonialismis</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/Postkolonialismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Postkolonialismus</span></a> <a href="https://fedifreu.de/tags/clickWorkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickWorkers</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:pointless grousing about "ai"/llms
Autiste à :ch_Vaud:🌊 #woke<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@minimalparts" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>minimalparts</span></a></span> I'm not a computational linguist or even engineer, but I can't help worrying about AI, because the problem they pose isn't just whether they are junk science or not (they are not). It's much more far-reaching than that. AI is an extension of the capitalist colonisation of the global south, where hundreds of millions of <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickworkers</span></a> are being exploited to the marrow to moderate social media and train AI. Sorry, but I can't sit on that and just ignore it. This is not a distraction.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@squads" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>squads</span></a></span> no they ain't - they are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WastefulComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WastefulComputing</span></a> at best if not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/exploitation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exploitation</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickworkers</span></a> who have no other means to make ends meet!</p><ul><li>Stop shilling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/garbage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>garbage</span></a> that only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechBros</span></a> who have 0 skills beyond swaying even more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VCs</span></a> into burning money get excited about!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.sandervankasteel.nl/@me" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>me</span></a></span> yikes...</p><p>That's really gonne require them to either cancel most people or need to book a different venue capable of holding the demand...</p><ul><li>Tho we can't be shure how many of those folks would actually buy tickets and estimates to the amount of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bots</span></a> or rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickworkers</span></a> getting paid to do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/scalping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>scalping</span></a> ranges from 10% to 95% depending on the item...</li></ul><p>Just like with <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ6eM5OZtm0&amp;t=110s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">9th Generation Consoles</a>...</p>
𝕂𝚞𝚋𝚒𝚔ℙ𝚒𝚡𝚎𝚕<p>Die Meldung ist nicht neu, wird aber kaum Wahrgenommen. Der KI-Support wird gerne Clickworking genannt aber ist in anderen Worten eine digitale Ausbeutung.</p><p>»Arbeiten für die KI – Clickworker erhalten 90 Cent pro Stunde:<br>Durch die neue Plattform „Data Workers‘ Inquiry“ sollen die oft prekären, aber unsichtbaren Arbeitsbedingungen von Clickworkern und Content-Moderatoren besser publik gemacht werden. […]«</p><p>🤖 <a href="https://t3n.de/news/arbeiten-fuer-die-ki-clickworker-erhalten-90-cent-pro-stunde-1634433/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">t3n.de/news/arbeiten-fuer-die-</span><span class="invisible">ki-clickworker-erhalten-90-cent-pro-stunde-1634433/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ki</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/clickworking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickworking</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ausbeutung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ausbeutung</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickworkers</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/unsichtbar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>unsichtbar</span></a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/arbeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>arbeit</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://respublicae.eu/@MarietjeSchaake" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MarietjeSchaake</span></a></span> I hope they also certify their products as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairtrade" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Fairtrade</span></a> and not rely on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/exploitation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exploitation</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>clickworkers</span></a> from the <em>Global South</em> instead...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@donni" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>donni</span></a></span> +9001%</p><p>Also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Captchas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Captchas</span></a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ableist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ableist</span></a> af and actually, detect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/humans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>humans</span></a> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>bots</span></a> are <em>faster</em>, <em>more accurate</em> and make <em>less mistakes</em>...</p><p>And yes, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spammers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Spammers</span></a> will just use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AMT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AMT</span></a> (basically <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AWS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AWS</span></a> but built upon the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/exploitation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exploitation</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Clickworkers</span></a> aka. digital <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/precariat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>precariat</span></a>) to circumvent those...<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Mechanical_Turk" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_M</span><span class="invisible">echanical_Turk</span></a></p>
Miguel Afonso Caetano<p><a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/DataLabor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DataLabor</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/PrisonLabor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PrisonLabor</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Finland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Finland</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Clickworkers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Clickworkers</span></a>: "Around the world, millions of so-called “clickworkers” train artificial intelligence models, teaching machines the difference between pedestrians and palm trees, or what combination of words describe violence or sexual abuse. Usually these workers are stationed in the global south, where wages are cheap. OpenAI, for example, uses an outsourcing firm that employs clickworkers in Kenya, Uganda, and India. That arrangement works for American companies, operating in the world’s most widely spoken language, English. But there are not a lot of people in the global south who speak Finnish.</p><p>That’s why Metroc turned to prison labor. The company gets cheap, Finnish-speaking workers, while the prison system can offer inmates employment that, it says, prepares them for the digital world of work after their release. Using prisoners to train AI creates uneasy parallels with the kind of low-paid and sometimes exploitive labor that has often existed downstream in technology. But in Finland, the project has received widespread support."</p><p><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/prisoners-training-ai-finland/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">wired.com/story/prisoners-trai</span><span class="invisible">ning-ai-finland/</span></a></p>
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