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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mas.to/@gabrielesvelto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gabrielesvelto</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozilla_support" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozilla_support</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> yes, and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> deciding to fragment <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> more by basically letting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MNO</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MVNO</a> run the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStores" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStores</a> instead of having a reference one made it worse than the chinese domestic market cuz at leadt there one can just get an agent to enshure one's apps are in all <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> AppStores there...<ul><li>It really felt like a regression in a time when even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> providers in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Germany</a> stopped <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>|ing & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>|ing devices and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ALDItalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ALDItalk</a> was the established prepaid leader with a €2,99 flat between it's clients.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mas.to/@gabrielesvelto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gabrielesvelto</a> I still remember <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> and I'm still mad at <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozilla_support" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozilla_support</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> for self-sabotaging because neither me nor <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> nor anyone else I knew who did <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebDev</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppDev</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MobileDev</a> could even buy a device.<ul><li>The only device that I was aware of launched in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> was a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a> which wouldn't sell it to us since they demanded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a> with a spanish residency address.</li></ul>I mean it's cool that one could just use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Emulator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Emulator</a> but no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mobile</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperatingSystem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OperatingSystem</a> will have any chance of market attraction if one cannot buy the bloody thing!<ul><li>Same like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenMoko</a>: I'd love to get a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Neo1973" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Neo1973</a> but none of the phone and electronic stores had it (and back then I was under 16 so I couldn't just make an account at an online shop)…</li></ul>

Baessando ☭🇧🇷🇵🇸🇺🇳Projetos Atuais:- BrejaTecMelhor Happy Hour de Tecnologia. Encontro mensal para que as pessoas de TI (mas todos são bem-vindas) possam se conhecer :blobBone_jump: Desde 2018, com mais de quase 7 anos e mais de 80 edições! Todo mês juntando quem quiser participar :bugcat_awe:Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brejatec/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/brejatec/</a>Telegram: <a href="https://t.me/BrejaTec" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://t.me/BrejaTec</a>- Dados LivresÉ uma plataforma colaborativa que permite a catalogação de fontes de dados abertos e aplicações cívicas, facilitando o acesso e a organização de informações públicas em diversas áreas como educação, saúde, economia, transporte e meio ambiente.Site: <a href="https://dadoslivres.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dadoslivres.org</a>- ASPOAN A Associação Potiguar Amigos da Natureza (ASPOAN) é uma entidade com mais de 40 anos de atividade que visa ações voltadas ao desenvolvimento sustentável e à defesa do meio ambiente, promovendo atuações diretas, manifestações, ações no ministério público, órgãos governamentais e políticas na região de Natal e no RN.Site: <a href="https://www.aspoan.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.aspoan.org/</a>- IFRNO Instituto Federal de Educação, Ciência e Tecnologia do Rio Grande do Norte (IFRN) é uma instituição pública com mais de 100 que oferece mais de 200 cursos gratuitos em diferentes níveis, incluindo formação inicial, técnica, graduação e pós-graduação, com vagas anuais para milhares de estudantes, além de atuar em pesquisa, extensão e ensino à distância.Site: <a href="https://www.ifrn.edu.br" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.ifrn.edu.br</a>- VETORO objetivo desse grupo é desenvolver projetos de ensino, pesquisa e extensão por meio da integração colaborativa de seus membros, promovendo formação técnica e cidadã, com impacto acadêmico e social. Atualmente com 6 projetos atuando com feiras de ciência, gestão ágil de projetos, divulgação de conhecimentos, desenvolvimento de sites e designs, sistemas para dados abertos e proteção ambiental.------Projetos Antigos:- PotiLivre (em atividade com outras pessoas)A PotiLivre é a Comunidade Potiguar de Software Livre, fundada em 2013, composta por voluntários que promovem a filosofia, o uso e a capacitação em software livre no Rio Grande do Norte, organizando eventos gratuitos e sem fins lucrativos para aproximar entusiastas, estudantes e profissionais de TI.Site: <a href="https://www.potilivre.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.potilivre.org</a>Telegram: <a href="https://telegram.me/potilivre" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://telegram.me/potilivre</a>- Canal do YouTube – Devaneios Sem Limites (<a href="https://bolha.one/@pBaesse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pBaesse</a>):Canal criado por Baesse que aborda temas diversos como series, apps, tecnologia, cultura, estilo de vida e reflexões pessoais. Foi um espaço livre de nicho único, com foco em autenticidade e temas interdisciplinares.Canal: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pBaesse" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@pBaesse</a>- CuradoriaCast Podcast criado por Baesse, Mariana e Bruce, com episódios quinzenais sobre cultura pop, tecnologia, privacidade digital e entretenimento. Atuou entre 2020 e 2023 e esteve disponível nas principais plataformas de streaming.Link: <a href="https://linktr.ee/curadoriacast" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/curadoriacast</a>Mozillian:“Mozillian” é o termo utilizado para identificar voluntários da comunidade global da Mozilla. Essas pessoas atuaram promovendo software livre, defesa da privacidade e uma internet aberta. Pedro Baesse foi um ex-voluntário ativo nessa comunidade. Fiz campanha pelo uso do <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefox</a> e do <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/firefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefoxOS</a> (saudades!)(Mais informações podem ser encontradas em <a href="https://www.mozilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.mozilla.org</a>)

Gabriele SveltoAs you probably heard animated PNG images (APNG) have been standardized! So here's a story on how I used an APNG file to cut a phone's power consumption by 10 times in a common scenario during the weeks leading up to the launch of Firefox OS 1.0. We'll talk about webpage layout, rendering, mobile hardware intricacies, driver bugs and of course APNG files. 🧵 1/16<a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@knurd42/114743763415059021" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://social.linux.pizza/@knurd42/114743763415059021</a><a href="https://mas.to/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PNG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PNG</a>

Rui Nibau (rnb)Après 11 ans passé avec le <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/zte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#zte</a> Open C sous <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> - acheté 90 € en 2014 - je dois être le dernier être humain à utiliser ce truc 😄 , temps de passer à un nouveau téléphone portable.Le choix se portera sans doute sur le <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Fairphone5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fairphone5</a> de chez <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Murena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Murena</a> .Ça coûte 550 € 😱 Mais bon, si je le garde aussi plus de 10 ans...<a href="https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-5/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena-fairphone-5/</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@fschaap" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fschaap</a> <a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@netopwibby</a> yeah, but why is it in the drawer (besides <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> being let to die prematurely)...We may be aware of Firefox OS' existance in the past but it was never even tried to be sold anywhere to any effect.<ul><li>And believe me, both <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> and I tried to get our hands on any device that came with it and I've never heard of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ZTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ZTE</a> Open C before, much less any device being sold in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Germany</a> which is absolutely flabberghasting to me given that in the late 2000s and early 2010s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> was the dominant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Browser</a> in Germany and thus had the best chance to leverage that customer base with good integrations like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MozillaPocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MozillaPocket</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxPocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxPocket</a>. </li></ul>I still love <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fennec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fennec</a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxMobile</a> but I'm still mad at <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> for not even trying to sell me a device, cuz I was at the time literally shouting: "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</a>!" and searched the (back then 4) MNOs' and their (half a dozen) MVNOs' stores (both retail and online) and never came across a Firefox OS device.<ul><li>Same with (online) electronics retailers: NONE of them even had a single listing when I looked for those.</li></ul>Which reminds me of the (coined by me term) "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedBlueIndex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RedBlueIndex</a>" [named after the parent company that owns both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Saturn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Saturn</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MediaMarkt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MediaMarkt</a>, the two biggest, spechalized electronics retailers]:<ul><li>If you can't find a product on shelf at Saturn/MediaMarkt, it doesn't exist in the minds and conciousness of the average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consumers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#consumers</a>!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://piaille.fr/@ciourte" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ciourte</a> <a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@netopwibby</a> Needless to say I've only heard of some Spanish low-cost <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MVNO</a> offering one device only in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bundle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bundle</a> when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> was unveiled at the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MWC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MWC</a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Barcelona" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Barcelona</a> based off coverage in <a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a> at the time.<ul><li>Cuz I remember <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebDevs</a> like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> really loving it because it was the then hot & fresh <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML5</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JS6</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS3</a> combo to make it super-easy to do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a>. All one needs to build an app was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> as Browser and the ability to basically zip' it.</li></ul>Alas <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> deciding on purpose to literally splinter the market by letting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MNO</a>|s and MVNOs run their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStore</a>|s instead of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#centralized</a> model, making the situation worse than in the "P.R." <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#China</a> where there are several vendor-independent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStores" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStores</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a>. <ul><li>"Conspiracy Theorists" even suggested that this was deliberate self-sabotage to benefit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a>, tho needless to say Firefox OS aimed at devices & specs that were too low for Android.</li></ul>Still, I'm <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StillMad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#StillMad</a> at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> for faceplanting Firefox OS cuz it had the easiest way to get started and a good architecture being every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> is just a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebApp</a> and all the system calls were standard <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML5</a> permissions and nothing fancy.<ul><li>Basically <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PSvita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PSvita</a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Syndrome,</a> but worse as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenMoko</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Freenunner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Freenunner</a>: </li></ul><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@netopwibby</a> OFC <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> would've been a success if people exited about it (like me) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#developers</a> (like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a>) were ever abke to legally obtain any device with FirefoxOS on it.<ul><li>AFAIK the only Firefox OS <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/phone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#phone</a> offered in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> was a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Prepaid</a> device sold in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a>, where they demanded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a> for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SIM</a>, making it impossible to legally obtain it back then without having to fly down to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a>, ID at a store, fly back and then be overcharged for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DataRoaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DataRoaming</a>!</li></ul>IMHO, <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> cannot be trusted at all!

Ludovic :Firefox: :FreeBSD:Firefox OS's story from a mozilla insider not working on the project <a href="https://ludovic.hirlimann.net/2024/01/firefox-oss-story-from-mozila-insider.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://ludovic.hirlimann.net/2024/01/firefox-oss-story-from-mozila-insider.html</a><a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mozilla</a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/firefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefoxOS</a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/storytime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#storytime</a>

Kanalmatrose<a href="https://norden.social/@nilz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nilz</a> meine wirklich verwegene Philosophie: Was nur mit Gurgle Play geht, brauch ich nicht. Hier <a href="https://norden.social/tags/crdroid_rom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#crdroid_rom</a> + <a href="https://norden.social/tags/nogapps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nogapps</a> + <a href="https://norden.social/tags/IzzySoftRepo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#IzzySoftRepo</a>Schade, dass <a href="https://norden.social/tags/firefoxos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefoxos</a> nicht weiter entwickelt wird. Denn, wie du schreibst, würde alles im Browser gehen (Web APP). Da hatten wohl die US Techs was dagegen. ;-(

Progi1984Ma fille a besoin d'un téléphone : c'est l'occasion de ressortir le ZTE Open C avec <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> et qui marche très bien après 9 ans. Pour du SMS et des appels, ce sera parfait.Improbable mais vrai. Le libre, ça fonctionne et ça dure.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/@bohwaz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bohwaz</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> Exactly...Coincidentially, that's why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> (and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a>) doesn't let users have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/root" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#root</a> access because billions of devices owned by mostly "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TechIlliterates</a>" that hardly get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SecurityUpdates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SecurityUpdates</a> would be an even bigger risk if they didn't boot a locked-down <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ROM</a> image, thus only allowing for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#malware</a> in user-privilegued userspace!<ul><li>I'd even go so far that I'd wish for <a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@torproject</a> to basically merge fmr. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> & <a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tails_live</a> / <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tails</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tails</a> to build a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#privacy</a>-focussed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ROM</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Smartphones</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tablets</a> i.e. "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TailsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TailsMobile</a>" or sth.</li></ul>Cuz having a mobile OS that shoves everything through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tor</a> and only allows <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/userspace" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#userspace</a>-Apps in the form modern web technologies would be a big <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#security</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#privacy</a> gain.<ul><li>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#amd64</a> is on it's way out and inevitably they gotta have to transition to supporting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/arm64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#arm64</a> and eventually <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RISCv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RISCv</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/64bit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#64bit</a> at some point.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mamot.fr/@bohwaz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bohwaz</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> That's exactly the problem, cuz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> nee <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> was a good and solid basis not just for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LowEnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LowEnd</a>-Devices but could've been excellent for a more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#secure</a> mobile OS, as it has good potential for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sandboxing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sandboxing</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KISS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KISS</a>-principle'd <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a> that are lean and efficient.But then again when enthusiasts like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> and I were shouting "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</a>!" to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a>, they basically refused to sell any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/device" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#device</a>, and then we get the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PSvita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PSvita</a>-Effect":<ul><li>Noone's gonna build an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> for a platform that is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">essentially a rounding error from the start!</a>…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> Yeah and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> is used with cheap phones of a brand named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Swisstone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Swisstone</a>.Case in point: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> nee <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> is now drowned in obscurity because of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> mismanagment and hamfisted approach compared to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a>.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> yes, and to add insult to injury <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> device, with the only one being "launched" in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a> one could only attain in-store with all the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a>" nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.<ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#accessible</a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Development</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tools</a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> for it and having every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebView</a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JS5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS3</a> files in a container), they didn't even sold us said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UbuntuTouch</a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nerds</a> like myself are far from the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#consoomer</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Normies</a>" for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tech</a> that I want!<ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MobileCoin</a> in hindsight…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackBerry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BlackBerry</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PlayBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PlayBook</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tablet</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYmHId9kJP4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">was released</a> as a accessory screen for their Phones, which gave it "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiiU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WiiU</a>-Effect" in terms of marketing.<ul><li>Plus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RIM</a> relying hard on business clients and their proprietary applianced mail systems and having big carriers upsell to business people made them look outdated & quite literally out of touch once <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iPhone</a> went mainstream.</li></ul>I mean, the hardware was never their problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SMS</a>-Typists swear by their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackberryCurve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BlackberryCurve</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#keyboard</a> but BlackBerry's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toolchain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#toolchain</a> - just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SymbianOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SymbianOS</a>'s - was just hideous to the point that devs like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> didn't even want to try making <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a> for those devices.<ul><li>Unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> fucking up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> by refusing to sell devices to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#developers</a>, by the time RIM & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> came from their high horses, their market shares had been squeezed into mere "rounding errors" by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> as it was way cheaper and easier to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a> developed, tested, sold, bought and use them than on their devices. </li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sony</a> even released some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#S60</a> devices but since they didn't have the same signing keys, one couldn't even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sideload" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sideload</a> apps (not to mention they didn't had the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OviStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OviStore</a> on those either!)...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://cubhub.social/@Rusty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Rusty</a> <a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dragonarchitect</a> I disagree re: webOS and FirefoxOS.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/webOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webOS</a> failed due to lack of market penetration (there was only like 1 Tablet from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hp</a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> failed because <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a> didn't even offer to sell devices to folks like me and <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> that wanted one.<ul><li>The only devices with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> OS in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> were a few <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phones that got sold in Spain (reqiring ID for no valid reason!) and which were essentially useless for anyone outside of Spain.</li></ul>Add to that the absurdity that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> basically expected carriers (!!) to maintain and provide the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStore</a>|s themselves and you get market fracturing worse than the "P.R." <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#China</a> (!!!)…It was mismanaged and self-sabotaged in the worst possible way.<ul><li>Similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OLPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OLPC</a> never sold the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XO1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XO1</a> in retail and didn't even offer the "Give one, Get one" deal in most places...</li></ul>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Duopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Duopoly</a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a> wasn't unavoidable, but an outcome of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfSabotage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfSabotage</a> and halfassed non-commitment by competitors!

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