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Too many overflows reporting Gmail spam

shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/05/too-m

What does the humble ⋮ symbol mean to you?

To geeks, it is a compelling attraction. Something cool and esoteric lives in there! All sorts of goodies to explore and configure.

To normal people, it is invisible. Normal people don't go pushing random icons on their apps because computers are fragile and may break if you do the wrong thing.

To me, it is a sign that product managers are a menace and must be stopped. A hundred thousand icons vying for your attention have been stuffed away because no one has the authority to prioritise user needs.

As a | user who has received some spam

I want to | easily report it as spam

So that | Google's AI can become ever stronger my inbox is easier to manage

How do you report spam? On the web, it is possible if you're prepared to enter the forbidden lair of ⋮. Click the one nearest the message and you'll see:

But there is no "report spam" button in the Gmail app. Try to find it. I promise you it isn't there.

No, not even behind the door of mysteries which is ⋮. See:

Ah ha! FOOLISH USER!! You thought that you could transfer a mastered skill from one environment to another? You are an idiot. A buffoon. The Eloi at Google mock your Morlock ways.

Here is the report spam button in the Gmail app - hidden in the top ⋮ menu!

And, just for completeness, here's what the top ⋮ on the web has.

Why?!

Why do the Monkey-Punchers at Google have such scorn for its users? Is it because their illegal monopoly means they don't have to compete for users? Do their perverse internal politics only reward employees for adding features, not removing them? Perhaps the web team and the app team are engaged in holy war around a doctrinal schism over icon placement?

We may never know.

OK, but why?

Why do the overflows on the web have icons but on the Android app they're barren?

Why is the order of the options completely different on both?

Why are the names different for the same functions?

We can only assume that the web team are Montagues and the app team Capulets.

What is going on?

Moving a UI from the big screen to the small screen is difficult. Some options aren't relevant in either context. Some labels are too big. Some prioritisation needs to happen. I accept that.

But users only have limited cognitive plasticity. They have a mental model of how a UI works and they expect it to be reasonably consistent.

I keep making the same mistake. Whether I'm on the web or app, I always go to the wrong option! This makes me feel like an idiot. I have a hundred apps to use, each with subtly different UIs - I can't be expected to keep them all straight. But I do expect the a common set of paradigms if the services are under the auspices of a single company.

Why are there two ⋮ menu options? I think the top relates to the conversation whereas the second relates to the specific message? But maybe I'm wrong.

Two out of three ain't bad

I lied earlier. There's a third way to report spam.

On the web, hover over one of the mysterious small icons - the ones with ridiculously thin lines and low contrast - and you'll be rewarded with this:

Make it make sense!!

Web version of Gmail. The second overflow menu has a report spam option.
Terence Eden’s Blog · Too many overflows reporting Gmail spam
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#gmail#google#ui

Migrating from #Gmail isn't as easy as it seems - especially when there's a myriad of old technology between you and a new service.

Trying to move to #Tuta isn't easy, as importing ICS files is sort of broken.

I want to import all historic events from a single ICS file and one event just trips up the whole process.

I'm not sure it's the emojies, or some line that does it, but the whole import gets wrongly parsed and turns into gibberish.

A lamen doesn't know what a parsing issue is tho.

#CancelGmail ❌ 📨❌
Meine Emailsignatur (also das was unter jeder meiner Emails steht) sagt jetzt, dass ich nicht mehr mit #Gmail Emailaccounts schreiben werde. Sie empfiehlt Leuten die Gmailadressen verwenden andere Email-Provider und sagt, dass ich auf diesem Weg nicht weiter mit ihnen kommunizieren werde.

Es fühlte sich schon spätestens seit den #Snowden-enthüllungen mulmig an, ungewollt meine Mails durch #Google durchschnüffeln zu lassen. Seit dem Wahnsinn, der gerade in den #USA passiert und dem kriecherischen Verhalten Googles gegenüber #Trump ist es ein #NoGo für mich geworden all meine Emailkonversationen durch diese Industrie ohne meine Zustimmung auswerten zu lassen.

Sucht euch andere Provider, Leute. Basisaccounts gibt es bei vielen besseren Providern gratis. #CancelGmail

#Posteo #Tutanota #Email #Infosec #Privatsphäre
#Datenkrake #USFaschisten #Trump

OMG.

I’m trying to burn my #google bridges and I realize my contacts are split between #icloud and #gmail. I exported my contacts from #takeout to a .vcf file and imported it to iCloud on the web, where all of my combined contacts are now showing.

But they aren’t all pushing to my iPhone… I’ve turned contacts on/off, force closed the Contacts app, turned my phone on/off, turned off all other contact accounts, & all combos of these. 144 unidentified contacts still won’t sync to my phone. WTF.

#Google is super efficient when it comes to locking innocent users out of their Google accounts, causing them to lose all their email, photos, and other data. They won't even listen to cost effective suggestions for fixing this. They just don't care about those users. But when it comes to stopping OBVIOUS dangerous phishes being sent out from #Gmail, they play helpless and flood the Internet with them. Disgusting.

GOOGLE! Do something about the endless scourge of fake #PayPal invoices pouring out of #Gmail (confirmed as coming from #Google, not spoofed). You don't even mark all of these as phishes to other Gmail subscribers, and you FLOOD non-Gmail platforms with them.

THESE ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

They should be easy for your super-duper-AI to detect. Here's a signal for you: The fake invoices virtually always include fake phone numbers for PayPal. That's the whole point, the scammers don't want email back, they want victims to call so they can scam them for payment information over the phone.

I've seen about six of these today in just a few hours. It's getting worse every day. Get off your asses and FIX THIS! Your inaction is putting vast numbers of people at risk.

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