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So yesterday Russia shot down a commercial airliner and intentionally destroyed a major undersea power connection between Finland and Estonia, in case you're wondering if Russian military aggression is limited to Ukraine.

@petergleick

so, the US invaded Iraq arguing a pack of lies as justification, killing millions of innocent Iraqis because the US regime didn't like their ruler. and their oil - wanted the oil.

the US is a predator nation, unprecedented in world history.

@StopTheSweepsPDX @petergleick

Euh... I totally opposed to US invasion of Irak, but your tooth is a total offtopic here.

Yeah, Irak invasion had not nearly enough justification, and Putin has given much more reasons for retaliation than Hussein did. But what are you arguing for? A NATO invasion of Russia?

About precedents: obviously, you are not a history major.

@jgg @petergleick

according to putin, if the Ukraine agreed not to seek NATO membership, he would not start a war.

what is the purpose of NATO anymore, anyway? the risk of invasion and war with the Soviet Union?

MAYBE if diplomatic solutions were considered, instead of blowing nations all to hell just to create economic opportunities for the invading nations? like NATO did to Yugoslavia?

Iwillyeah

@StopTheSweepsPDX @jgg @petergleick sorry, I'm not sure I get how the completely illegal invasion of Iraq justifies the completely illegal invasion of Ukraine. You're allowed be horrified by both bud, you don't have to choose.

In the meantime the attack on Ukraine inspired the single largest expansion of NATO in decades, so Putin seems to be more interested in recruiting for them than putting his neighbours off joining.