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Alllright, hello lunarians! We've moved instances again (4 hours has to be a world record for shortest stay in a #Mastodon before migrating :P), and hopefully this will be the final time we will do that. It would be a shame, because "Outer Heaven" does sorta fit more for a #browser named "Pale Moon"! ;)

So, with a permanent #fediverse home, here's the short #introduction again done two instances ago on what #PaleMoon is all about:

We are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!

If you want to explore more about our history, roadmap, and what you can do with this browser, then please give our website below a visit! 🌕

https://www.palemoon.org/

#introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
www.palemoon.orgThe Pale Moon Project homepagePale Moon is an Open Source, Mozilla-derived web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use.
Hello everyone in the #fediverse! This is will be our official SNS after we've left Twitter last year in June due to it crossing too many lines for us to even continue using it as a channel for notifications. We will be doing that stuff here too: announce important updates such as new releases and scheduled downtimes for our services whenever they come. However, with this account not being directly managed by our project owner (it is instead managed by @job), this social media account could try to be a bit more flexible this time, such as boosting relevant #PaleMoon commentary and sometimes posting about less-known features we have that deserve attention. We will see how this goes! ;)

As our first post, let me, the operator of this account write a short #introduction of what this #browser is: we are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!

I would love to explain more, but it would take too long to write here, so we suggest exploring our website if you want to learn more!

🌕 https://www.palemoon.org/

#introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
www.palemoon.orgThe Pale Moon Project homepagePale Moon is an Open Source, Mozilla-derived web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use.

#UXP s #photoshop plugins actually bake my noodle sometimes, it keeps trying to leverage the async functionality of javascript for really basic function calls. I just want you to do a sequence of actions, why do I have to keep making async functions that do nothing but await and are only ever executed with await.

@CenturyAvocado The UI / #XUL application frontendof #PaleMoon is based on #Firefox 28 (before #Australis)

The #UXP platform/backend Pale Moon is built to work on is hard forked from the ESR 52 branch of the #Mozilla platform (which is erroneously referred to as the "Firefox platform" no thanks to Mozilla focusing so much on the browser to the detriment of building a sustainable XUL platform for other desktop app developers to use), and has since come a long way when it comes to #webcompat

So "really ancient" can be pretty misleading on the surface.

@Tourma

then implements modern features in Safari/Webkit really slowly

That's good actually, because you #webdevs keep chasing the shiny new features #Chrome / #Chromium / #Blink is pushing to the #web like fucking fireflies, to the detriment of #webcompat with small #browsers like #PaleMoon, #Basilisk, and others based on #UXP / #Goanna / #XUL (like #SeaMonkey).

As someone who used to work actively in Pale Moon's development, I am witness to a website that almost broke its #compatibility with my #browser but was stopped because the new feature it wanted to require was not yet available in an old #Safari / #WebKit version they're still supporting.

So yes, from my point of view, #Apple does more to support the #openweb than #Mozilla and #Firefox (which always follows Chrome whenever it's not controversial) does, even if it didn't intend to. And to be clear, I am not even an Apple fanboy. The only Apple device I own is this ancient 1st generation of the iPad mini. I don't like their ecosystem.

So it's not a bad take. It's the reality we independent desktop browser developers see in #webdev. ☕

#MissedQuoteBoost of tenforward.social/@packetcat/1

Ten Forwardpacketcat (@packetcat@tenforward.social)Content warning: dunking on a bad take re: Apple and browser engine choice on iOS

#PaleMoon needs your help more than ever! If you are regularly using this #web #browser like I do, please consider chipping in by donating or buying one of their physical coin collectibles (87 left as of writing) in #KoFi. Let's help keep one of the last truly independent #browsers out there afloat and keep the lingering spirit of the #openweb alive!

forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.p

forum.palemoon.orgWe need your help! - Pale Moon forum