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The Medley Interlisp Project<p>It's 1986 and you want to use Interlisp-D on your Xerox workstation. This primer will get you up to speed with booting a Lisp image, handling floppy disks, using the mouse, transferring files to a VAX, and interacting with the environment. Some of the material is obsolete but gives an idea of what it was like to use a Lisp Machine in the 1980s.</p><p><a href="http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interlisp-d/198510_Koto/3102300_Interlisp-D_A_Friendly_Primer_Nov86.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interl</span><span class="invisible">isp-d/198510_Koto/3102300_Interlisp-D_A_Friendly_Primer_Nov86.pdf</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/LispMachine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LispMachine</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>The Common Lisp implementation of Medley Interlisp is closer to CLtL1 than ANSI but does support the condition system. The CONDITIONGRAPH tool shows the hierarchy graph of conditions.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/CommonLisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CommonLisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/lisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lisp</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>If you use or tried running Medley Interlisp, what things did you discover later on that you wish you knew? We would appreciate your feedback.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/lisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lisp</span></a></p>
Paolo Amoroso<p>Codeberg <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Codeberg</span></a></span> doesn't currently detect and display Interlisp sources, which it handles as binary files. I submitted a feature request for adding Interlisp support to Forgejo:</p><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/8184" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/i</span><span class="invisible">ssues/8184</span></a></p><p>The developers started working on the feature and merged a pull request:</p><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/pulls/8377" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/p</span><span class="invisible">ulls/8377</span></a></p><p>Thanks Forgejo and Codeberg!</p><p><a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/lisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lisp</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/codeberg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>codeberg</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>We now take it for granted but adding a display to a copying machine was a novel idea in the early 80s. In this 1984 video Austin Henderson told the history of and demoed Trillium, an Interlisp environment for designing and prototyping user interfaces for Xerox copier control panels.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXwzh1Q2GeQ" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=pXwzh1Q2GeQ</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Trillium was actually more versatile as Henderson used the system to run the slideshow in this presentation. See also:</p><p><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/22627.22375" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/226</span><span class="invisible">27.22375</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gui" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gui</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xerox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xerox</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>It would seem odd today but the 1986 edition of the Lafite manual had an appendix on email etiquette:</p><p>Using Lafite Courteously<br><a href="https://files.interlisp.org/medley/library/lafite/docs/users-guide/LAFITEMANUAL-APPENDIXA.TEDIT.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">files.interlisp.org/medley/lib</span><span class="invisible">rary/lafite/docs/users-guide/LAFITEMANUAL-APPENDIXA.TEDIT.pdf</span></a></p><p>The full manual of Lafite, the email system of Medley Interlisp:</p><p><a href="https://files.interlisp.org/medley/library/lafite/docs/users-guide" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">files.interlisp.org/medley/lib</span><span class="invisible">rary/lafite/docs/users-guide</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>The TEdit WYSIWYG editor of Medley Interlisp has a split window mode that shows different parts of a document. To split at the cursor or unsplit, middle-click on the title bar and select Split Window or Unsplit Window.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/lisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lisp</span></a></p>
Paolo Amoroso<p>I'm putting together a reading list on Xerox Network Systems (XNS), the network architecture developed at PARC and Xerox which influenced TCP/IP.</p><p>I'd like to learn more to play with the network functionality of Medley Interlisp based on XNS. Medley's TCP/IP stack is currently incomplete and not working.</p><p><a href="https://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/bitsavers/pdf/xerox/xns/XNSG058504_XNS_Introduction.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/bi</span><span class="invisible">tsavers/pdf/xerox/xns/XNSG058504_XNS_Introduction.pdf</span></a></p><p><a href="https://bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/xns/XNSG_068504_Xerox_System_Network_Architecture_General_Information_Manual_Apr85.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/xns/XN</span><span class="invisible">SG_068504_Xerox_System_Network_Architecture_General_Information_Manual_Apr85.pdf</span></a></p><p><a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/xerox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>xerox</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>A 1988 demonstration of the Cognoter collaborative brainstorming tool in Interlisp.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzBj13OSVzM" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=KzBj13OSVz</span><span class="invisible">M</span></a></p><p>It was an application of project Colab at Xerox PARC to study how computers could support face-to-face-meetings. The researchers designed a conference room with specialized equipment such as a touch sensitive projection screen and collaboration software in Interlisp running on networked workstations.</p><p>About Colab:</p><p><a href="https://www.markstefik.com/?page_id=155" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">markstefik.com/?page_id=155</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/meetings" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>meetings</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>In the Medley Interlisp documentation and literature the word "button" was used as a verb for mouse gestures for which we would now say "click". For example:</p><p>"Left-buttoning the display window updates it, and middle-buttoning the window brings up a menu that allows you to change the display state."</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a></p>
Alfred M. Szmidt<p>Someone should write some <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MIT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MIT</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CADR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CADR</span></a> microcode and supporting code to make it possible to run <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Interlisp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Medley" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Medley</span></a> on the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MIT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MIT</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LispMachine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LispMachine</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LispM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LispM</span></a></p>
Paolo Amoroso<p>Don't mind me, I'm just poking around this newfangled OOP thing with LOOPS on Medley Interlisp. LOOPS (Lisp Object-Oriented Programming System) is the object extension of Interlisp.</p><p><a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/lisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lisp</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/oop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>oop</span></a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a></p>
The Medley Interlisp Project<p>DIRGRAPHER is a Medley Interlisp tool that shows graphical directory trees and provides file management commands. It's part of the LispUsers collection of user contributed software.</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interlisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>interlisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/lisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lisp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a></p>

We are happy to share the preprint and slides of the paper "The Medley Interlisp Project: Reviving a Historical Software System" by Eleanor Young et al.:

interlisp.org/documentation/yo

interlisp.org/documentation/yo

It tells the first 5 years of the Medley Interlisp Project and discusses what other historical software recovery groups can learn from our experience. The paper was presented at IEEE CCEECE 2025 in Vancouver and accepted for publication.

The LOOPS primer, published in 1987, captured well the essence of exploratory programming in Lisp:

The LOOPS interface provides both a programming tool and a thinking tool. As you develop a new system, each preliminary version provides an object for thought and discussion. The preliminary versions are a crucial part of the design process.

LOOPS (Lisp Object-Oriented Programming System) is the OOP extension of Interlisp.

bitsavers.org/pdf/xerox/interl

Fugue, Interlisp-360, Lcom, XEOS.

These are some of the terms, names, and organizations in our Glossary. It's a useful resource for getting your way around Medley Interlisp. Any other terms you'd like to see defined?

interlisp.org/history/glossary

The Medley Interlisp ProjectGlossaryThe names “Medley,” “Interlisp-D,” “Interlisp.org,” “Common Lisp,” etc. are often used in confusing ways. We’re talking about a lot of different things that evolved over decades. These are cemented in by usage in different publications over time. We hope this glossary of terms will help. Vocabulary and relationships AltoLisp An (unsuccessful) attempt to build a Lisp-based OS for running Interlisp on an Alto. Carol, Fugue, Harmony, Intermezzo, Koto, Lyric, Medley Named releases of Interlisp-D. All are obsolete except Medley. Common Lisp The subject of a 10-year standards process to converge multiple dialects of the Lisp language. Strong influences from many Lisp dialects, including Interlisp. Common Lisp the Language Book by Guy Steele with two editions: CLtL1 – edition 1, 465 pages CLtL2 – second edition, 1029 pages Common Lisp dpANS The ANSI Standard for Common Lisp. Starting with the Lyric release of Interlisp-D and then the Medley release, the implementation of Medley included implementations of Common Lisp (CLtL 1) as well as the Interlisp dialect in a single development environment; this was made possible by using the (Common Lisp) “package” feature to allow both dialects to be intermixed.